Do any service manuals exist?

You can try the library link to the left. It may have what you’re looking for.

Mark — Just curious. Are you new to old cars or is this just your first Pierce and you’ve owned a variety of other Pre-War cars most of your life?

There’s a lot of fundamental “need to do / need to know” stuff when acquiring a car like yours and getting it on the road for the first time.

Ask lots of questions here. No such thing as a stupid question, and chances are someone else will benefit as well.

Hello Mark. Welcome to the PAS.

As Ed stated above, there were no service manuals written. The factory sent out Service Bulletins regarding and factory known issues and the ‘official’ repair of same. This is where our ‘Service Bulletins’ come from. About 1/2 or more of the Service bulletins are reprints of Pierce Arrow Factory bulletins.

There were illustrated Parts manuals published, I have heard ‘rumors’ that there was one published for the 1931 year, but the latest one I have is a 1930 version. There are only a few differences between ’30 and ’31. One being a ’31 Model 43 has a direct gear-to-gear driven camshaft. All other 8 cylinder Pierce engines had chain-driven camshafts.

The closest to a service manual will be the oldest printing of ‘Motors Factory Shop Manual’. This publication by the Hearst publishing company covers most cars in production at the time of printing, and goes back about 4-5 years. I have a 1941 edition in front of me, it is a ‘Fifth Edition’, First Printing, copyright 1940.

This ‘manual’ offers a mere 6 pages of specifications, and techniques for Pierce Arrows starting with 1935. And of course the few 1938 cars were the last produced.

I have a ‘Fourth Edition’ that has some information on the 1932 and later cars. But that is the oldest version I have ever found.. I wonder if there really was a First Edition, Second Edition and Third Edition? There were often many printings of certain versions.

I’ve always wanted to find an early edition and see if there is any info on say, ’27-’30 cars.

As Ed mentioned, asking questions on this message forum will get you many answers from experienced Pierce owners and owner/restorers. Personally I find actual, hands-on information much better than something written by a editor/publisher.

If you do not have a copy of the Automobile Quarterly publication 28-4, it was the only AQ published on a single Marque. There is a lot of information available in this illustrated book. I have several that I offer for sale, just email me if you want one.

Another great way to learn and experience the Pierce Arrow Society is to attend local/regional events [a few ] or come to the Annual Meets. [shameless plug] : This year’s meet is in NE Indiana, June 11-15th. Located in Indiana’s Pokagon State Park, which has a wonderful resort hotel: The Potawatomi Inn.

At Annual meets, you will get to see a selection of Pierce Arrow cars, trucks, bicycles, and talk with their owners. I’m sure there will be a Model 43 or two in attendance.

You can reach me best via email: [email protected]

Hope this helps.. and hope to meet you in Indiana this summer !!

Greg Long

It may have been said, contact the AACA Library in Hershey and they can copy the parts book for you.

Mark,

All of the above suggestions are good. Your idea of buying the PASB Disk is also good. It has all of the PAS service bulletins going back to the sixties. The latest (2018) PASBs are on the website for download. A lot of information on the disk, some factory service letters, some from knowledgeable PAS members (including some that worked for Pierce) and some Message Board threads. Like you, I prefer printed. I have printed all of the PASBs off the disk that pertain to my car and put them in a binder along with the appropriate section of the “Wiring and Tune up Guide” and the Owner’s Manual(that has a LOT of useful info). The disk is searchable using Adobe Acrobat. The trick to it is using the correct search phrase. Too specific you will get nothing, too general and you will get too many hits. It takes a little practice. This Message Board also has a search feature. The same caveat applies about the search phrase.

As previously mentioned, your Owner’s Manual is downloadable from the “Library” section on this website. The Parts Book and several sales books are listed and are available from the AACA library. Have fun with the new car.

Dave

Mark, welcome to the PAS. I confess to being a first time antique car owner, with limited experience in working on cars, so from that viewpoint I want to stress the resources that this website provides. Whenever a new question comes up with my car, a 1933 1236 EDL, I search the message board for a possible answer, and if no answer comes up, I post a question. You will get a plethora of answers, and in the process get to know a great group of people. One thing I have done is to create a series of folders in my computer, covering the various aspects of my car, and I copy and paste relevant posts covering my car into these folders, so I have them all for ready reference. Based on the information I’ve received over the years, I have been able to do many minor repairs on my car and learn when a repair is major enough to turn over to an expert.

There are so many things in a Pierce which are unusual that it’s a good idea to ask before doing anything, as a well intentioned repair or service might wind up causing some major damage to your car. For example, I never would have realized that the worm gear drive in my car was bronze and requires specific lubricants. I have run across a lot of guys who “know everything about cars,” yet when listening to what they want to do you discover it is completely contrary to the advice of the experts here.

Welcome aboard and hope to see you at one of the meets!

I have the earlier version that runs from 1910 to 1926, and it has all the stuff in it you could imagine……..Knox, Cole, Simplex, if you can name it, it’s in there. Ed

There were a number of published “manuals” in the early days, including Motors Handbooks, Dyke’s Encyclopedia, and Lester Steele, among others. You can also find a lot of information in the SAE (Society of Automotive Engineers) transactions. Fred Clymer put out an antique car handbook for cars 1927 and prior. To a lesser degree, the Holland Interchange manuals are helpful.

None of these were for a specific marque, but all have some value to a point, as many manufacturers used parts from independent manufacturers, like Delco, Bendix, etc.

There is also a McLure’s Magazine, giving some specs and pricing for cars. The 1917-18 book shows the model 66-A-4 cost as much as $8000 from the factory! In addition to the standard specs, the Pierce also included windshield, speedometer, autometer, clock and demountable rims.

I agree with Geroge’ Comments 100 percent. I took me twenty five years of looking to locate the 1929 first edition, and it’s the only one I have ever seen. I bought it from a rare book dealer, who commented to me “that’s the rarest automotive service book I have ever sold.” I agreed with him…………National Service Manuel’s from 1935 and later are common, and very good ones should run 150 dollars or less. Go earlier and they get expensive. Most people who only have one car really only need a copy of their one to three pages. The books are heavy and can be hard to use. In the shop I take photos of the page with my camera phone, and print it out enlarged as I can’t see as well as I once could. Also helps thr books clean and less likely to tear.

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