1937 Pierce Arrow Radiator Drain Valve

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    I went to drain the radiator on my 1937 Pierce Arrow and when I turned the handle extending from the top of the valve it turned freely where it screwed into the top of the valve and did not turn the valve. I removed the valve and see that the handle is not locked to valve allowing the free movement of the handle. I was told that maybe the handle had a pin or was soldered to keep it from moving independently from the valve. I am going to repair it but was hoping that someone could tell me what kept the handle locked to the valve when it left the factory.  Was the handle just screwed in so tightly that it held to the valve or was something else used to hold it?

    #480860

    Here is another photo showing the handle when screwed into the valve.

     

    #480862

    Maybe Loctite the threads?

    #480863

    I had considered that but wanted to know what was done originally.

    #480865

    I DK about how it was fashioned, but is that a “tiny” pin showing in the First photo?

    Overall, the assembly looks like it was originally Brazed.

    As a young man, I worked in a manufacturing factory where we constructed “high pressure” vessels that were components of machines like air conditioners

    After the Vessels were brazed, they were put on conveyor arrangements and run through a furnace to heat and melt the substance applied to keep them sealed and airtight.

    Before painting, at the joints, the steel looked like the photos above.

    Therefore, I offer the opinion that this piece had the Top put (screwed) on, the Shaft Aligned so the hole was open, the PIN put in place, and then the top-piece Brazed to the Rod.

    What do you think about that idea?

    #480866

    If that is not a Pin in the first photo, and if there is not a hole through the cap and the rod, then it had to be BRAZED to hold everything in place and aligned.

    Solder is for making general electrical connections and not for pieces that endure serious heat, as it has a Low Melting Point.

    #480867

    Finally, I hope, Loctite is likely not an option because of the Heat-Range the engine goes through from Startup (cold) to Running Temperature (100+ degrees).   However, I could be mistaken!

    #480869

    There is no pin or pin hole in the valve or the shaft. The handle screws in and out easily. There is no sign of solder or any other extra material on the threads in the threaded hole in the valve.

    #480871

    Considering your response, I guess that I was wrong.  Oh well!

    You might consider contacting one or more of the expertly knowledgeable people in the Society.

    For instance, John Cislak is a Gentleman who is a Master of repairing / maintaining Pierce Arrow cars.

    There is also, George Teebay, who is a Master of  Knowing Almost Everything Pierce Arrow.

    There are also at least a dozen others who could help, but you now have a place to start.

    I trust that neither of them will balk at your approaching them on the matter, and either offer you an answer, or direct you to someone who may know.

    Good Luck!

     

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