Starting a new post to see if the pictures will go this time.
I accidentally deleted my last discussion so I am starting a new one regarding the Cowl and Cab on my 1928 Fleet Arrow Wagon.
Greg,
Thanks for all the great information and invite into Longs Folly in Holly. Im not sure when but I am going to get there sometime. Unfortunately I need to show up at the office during the week and have basketball and softball seasons to watch my last daughter who is now a senior in high school play. I will most likely give you a call sometime in the near future to discuss more details. In the meantime here are some more pictures of my truck before I started to dismantle it.
I do have the doors
The drivers door is in really good shape but the passenger door has some wood rot on the bottom.
At least good enough to get a good pattern.
Jake, thanks for mentioning this. My father was here again just today and he swears that it was built like this from the factory, or should I say the Coachbuilder. It was well put together with mortise and tenon joints and what appears to be factory Steel Corner Supports.
My father is 76 yrs old and bought the truck when he was around 19. He did nothing but drive it for a few years and it has been parked since.
Greg, here is a picture of the upside down dash, at least according to the parts manual. It was mounted exactly as the picture shows it.
My dad said the drivers side windshield opened, you can see the type of hinge it used in this photo, the passenger window was framed separately and was stationary. Also notice the mortise and tenon joint it the window frame?
heres the photo
Rear Cab Corner Dismantle, more Mortise and Tenon joints.
Hidden screw beneath the metal supports.
This screw held the joint tight, no glue.
joint exposed
Sorry if I am rambling on. I wanted to get across the construction to see if anyone has any ideas if this was a direct build from the Coachbuilder or remodel. By the craftsmanship I believe it was the original construction but not sure how the firewall would have been finished. Doesn’t seem likely that is was a mix of wood and metal?
Jake, have you seen any trucks that look similar to mine, meaning the steel plate on the firewall/Wind Screen and wood look? There is tin wrapped around the back cab corners and on the doors but no where else.
Also, note there is plywood on the doors and cab interior just behind the doors.
Plywood once covered the back of the cab on the exterior. There are remnants of it here along with the heads of the screws that held it in place.
I am still doing research but I have seen a lot of photos of trucks with and without a cowl, thanks for the heads up on that Jake. The measurements for the location of the seat and dash match what is specified in the “FA” Truck Specifications I received from Paul.
1. If I added a cowl and slid the windscreen backwards to maintain the Dash to Back of Seat measurement of 49″ then it would throw off the Back of Seat to End of Frame measurement of 148″.
2. If I added the cowl and Keep the back of seat where it is then the 30″ doors would not fit.
3. Rebuild the body exactly as it was since my family has owned it, no cowl. Concerned it possibly wouldn’t be original since it wasn’t customary for Pierce to have a combination of wood and metal on the front of the wind screen, looks a bit like it is unfinished.
For those of you who stomached reading this entire message, help! Your opinions on how to restore this Cab would be greatly appreciated.
Charles,
I found this emblem on eBay you may want.
Ken