Vin# cars for sale

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Has anyone ever noticed that many of the P-A’s listed for sale in various online ads haveVIN’s that cannot be found in the PA roster.  Are these cars unknown to the PAS or are the vin’s most likely inaccurate?   Just curious, has anyone else noticed this, sound trivial, just asking.  Guess they wouldn’t be in roster if previously sold and new owner is not a member. Oh well?

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Jim,

Many of the cars are not known to PAS. I am constantly adding “new” vehicles to the list. Many new owners are not PAS members or if they are, they don’t register their vehicles with us. We have a large number of “Orphan” vehicles in the Roster for which we have no current owner information. If you buy or sell a Pierce-Arrow, please contact me to update the vehicle record.  [email protected] Any member can add a vehicle to their record, however if the vehicle is already in our database, this creates a duplicate record. Instead, the vehicle record needs to be transferred to the new owner which can only be done by the prior PAS owner or myself. The new owner cannot make the transfer.

Often what is listed as the Serial# is the engine # as back in the day it was common for states to use engine # for titles. Of course if the engine was changed, the VIN became incorrect.  The other thing I have noticed is that many people put down the casting number as the engine number. It is large and people see it first. All of the engine numbers are stamped. If you want to find the serial number on a P-A, go here for location information:  https://pierce-arrow.org/members/serial-number-and-identification/

Dave

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