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Note that you asked for a “good” bicycle stand.
The one’s I recommended are “good”, but not great. I’m sure there are some great stands out there, I just prefer not to spend big bucks on them, since I’m broke after buying the bikes themselves!
I have an Angola Pierce women’s bike for sale, if anyone’s interested, it’s in the Emporium and I’m negotiable.
The best stands are original, turn of the century (TOC circa 1900), stands. These occasionally come up for sale but are rarer than the bikes and sell quickly. There are lots of different variations of those.
I use a fairly inexpensive stand for my bikes, not fancy but works. For some reason only place I seem to find them is the UK.
Bicycle Floor Rack Parking Holder Display Stand F for Bike MTB Oxford 5030009325779 | eBay
The great thing is that these are both 1902 Pan American Special bikes, one men’s and one women’s, a great pair! If one is going to own a couple of TOC Pierce bikes, those are the two to own. Congrats on acquiring them….that women’s bike is a real beauty.
I was able to snag a Pan American chainless also, not long ago, to add to the other Pierce bikes I have…and yes, the front forks are wonky for some reason. It appears to have mostly original paint.
David Coco
From what I can ascertain (my big word for the day), the system is simply the carbon microphone and diaphragm speaker wired in series with the battery. It’s a two wire system, power line to microphone, microphone out to speaker, speaker to ground.
It would be easy enough to test if microphone and speaker are out of car. It may also be possible to snake wires under rear carpet and up rear armrest, so there’s no tearing out of interior.
fun stuff… David Coco Winchester Va
I think the best way to reduce your taxes is to spend all your money on old cars (easy to do, ask a pilot how much money it takes to own and fly an airplane and he’ll tell you “all of it”), then you can be broke and pay no tax at all!
Easy peasey….
Well, and anecdote is in order. Long story maybe short, maybe longer. Had an engine fire in my 1931 model 43. Decided to re-restore it, since last restoration was done in 1960.
Everything apart, decided to do engine, and a good friend of mine did a great job on it.
Cut to the chase, it’s about 2 months before the 2001 Buffalo meet, and I’m desperate to get the car back together for that event. Problem is, I’m working full time, and weeks spent out of state.
I call a good friend who has a modest restoration shop. He comes and looks at frame over there, fenders in the corner, body there, engine on a stand. All painted and all the parts ready to go, just the time to put together. So, he does, and a fine job, and I’m off to Buffalo.
While there, oil pressure driving down the road no problem, but when engine warms up and I sat at idle, gauge is as close to zero as I can tell. So, I put a slight rev on the engine, it jumps slightly to a few pounds (realizing the gauge is not so calibrated, but it at least jumps off the peg).
Car does fine, I worry about low oil pressure, get home. Talk to my friend who rebuilt the engine, he comes over, we drop the pan to check things out. Whoever put the oil pump in cross threaded one or both of the output fitting studs, so it didn’t tighten gasket and seat, and so not all the pressure was going to the engine.
We checked all the journals, no damage done, corrected problem. Now, oil pressure at idle shows 5 or so PSI, and at speed varies with oil temperature.
Whew, I feel like I dodged one on that…
I remember seeing the car at Hershey, hard to think it was that many years ago. Henry Yeska had it for sale, which was interesting to me since I’d bought numerous Packard parts from him for my 443 coupe. I walked around it for probably 20 minutes, loving it, but my bank account at the time wasn’t up to the task!
Great video, I own a 31 and thought I knew it well, but I learned a lot from this presentation. Thanks to Rich and all involved…
That’s a mighty handsome car to me. I don’t know anything about Model 31, other than Pierce Arrow and six cylinder, was this the small car that year? The Speedway has been selling some pretty nice early iron, and kudos to them for getting them running and prepped before listing for sale….
Have fun with your restoration! Remember, it’s not one big job, it’s 3000 little jobs.
From a trimmer’s perspective, take a lot of pictures, save every piece for reference, and preferably, have the person who’s going to upholster the car come visit and give you some tips on what to do and what not to do. For example, continue door jamb paint around the edge, as the upholstery won’t cover the very edge of the door.
I’m working on a car now, if I’d been able to spend 30 minutes with the person in charge of the project before it was restored, it would have saved the owner a couple of thousand dollars in needless work getting an interior in it.
If your seats need new “socks” for the springs, make sure you mark where each individual spring is located in the backrest or cushion, as there can be many different lengths and spring rates in each assembly. I did an article on this in both the PAS “The Arrow” and the AACA magazine. The socks are necessary to keep the springs in place and quiet.
On your tack strip, I highly recommend using white ash. A lot of people like oak thinking “strong as an oak”, but that’s a large grain wood that splits easily and doesn’t like tacks.
From personal experience, if you take the doors off and remove the hinges, make SURE you mark where each hinge goes. I had a fellow work on my phaeton and threw them all in a bucket, unmarked. That will ruin your day.
I believe the Murphy fastener right behind front door is incorrect. There’s a special fastener, with a socket in the body, that should go there. Someone correct me if I’m wrong on that.
Thanks, Jane, for the update.
Thanks, George, for spending the time to investigate and, hopefully, fix. Your time is appreciated.
I hope that members here are following the AACA forums. After you register, if you’re not already, the easiest way to read is click “new posts” in upper right hand corner. Interesting reading.
Yes, you pulled me in on that one! I just couldn’t resist answering on one of my favorite topics, bicycles…..well done!
When is a decision going to be made? Right now we have two different forums, one here and one on the AACA site. At this point it doesn’t matter to me which decision is made, I’ve said more than enough about it, but it just seems like we should have one or the other, not both.
I understand the function of a moderator, I just think Peter is being a little heavy handed on the subject, the reason for my comment.
If we end up on the AACA forums, for goodness sake, stay on topic. Peter G. Just went ballistic as a moderator and there’s now a banner on the site STAY ON TOPIC or some such. God forbid we talk about other things that come to mind….
OK thanks, I’ll research from that angle. A citizen of leisure, now THERE’S a noble goal!
My point was that we don’t HAVE 500 posts every few days.
I have been just stating my opinion. I am sure that we will move to the AACA forum regardless of comments, and life will go on. Go for it, if it makes life easier for our volunteers then that’s fine. I do feel that the person paid to “fix” our website has a vested interest in us going there, but so be it.
Yes, I have 8000 posts there, but there have been a lot of compromises along the way, including developing a very thick skin and realizing that many people on that site aren’t on the same wavelength I am. As long as everyone realizes that the door will be open for criticism that’s not always friendly, that’s fine…
Whew. Thank you Jane for taking on the task of responding.
I don’t have the energy to go back and do it point by point, but here are the high points.
PAS Forum read only VS. public post, as we are currently…that’s fine with me, but we’re still talking among ourselves. The ramifications of bringing our posts into the general public, and having them respond, are huge. I’m really not fighting it so much as pointing out that life changes on the AACA forum, and as dramatic as that sounds, just saying…a user has to search for the Pierce forum, on the AACA, you are now a target for those who can figure out how to hit keys on a keyboard….I’ve been there, it’s not real pretty at time….do the benefits outweigh the negative stuff we’ll have to wade through? Maybe, that’s for our Board to decide.
Keep a “fun and happy tone”, well, sure, at times, but there will come a time when we look back and think to ourselves oh my goshenation, why did we go public with this. I’ve spent more than my fair share of time on the AACA forums, a great tool, but can get downright nasty at times.
Sticky with rules? I chuckled at that. Rules for posting are ignored constantly on the AACA forums. You can enforce by deletion, but that can lead to bigger problems too.
I think we’re headed to the AACA forums, you guys in charge seem to be leaning that way, and I know Peter is crawfishing and saying this’ll fix it ( a Lousiana term ). That’s fine, but again, I’ve been very active on the forums, and it’s not always a happy world.
You mention we’re losing 500 posts to the PAS forum every 10-15 days? I’m not understanding that comment.
Mark, I agree that some people want to stay behind a generic profile name and not be identified on the AACA forum.
I will also say that it’s very difficult to do. I started that way on the AACA forum but gave up, as someone called me out by name. All it takes is once and it’s over, then if you change your user name you’ve lost history on the site.
Remember that staying anonymous means not posting pictures of your cars, not talking about specific events or shows where you participated, not talking about the town or area you live in, the list goes on. The old car hobby is too small a group, relatively speaking, for someone not to figure out who you really are.
I think our private forum is going to the AACA forum, it’s already in use there, and I can appreciate the argument that it may give the Society more exposure. I’ve expressed my opinions and that’s that. Life will be different on the AACA forums, but heck, life’s different everywhere now……
That’s great news, I’m very pleased it went to an “end user”!
Looks like a great car, I love my Model 43 phaeton but that would be a close second for sure…..
Congratulations Don! I was so hoping it went to an individual and not a dealer. Great car at a more than fair price, I wish you many years of enjoyment. Although the Model 42 is significantly different than my Model 43, please don’t hesitate to contact me if you need any help with your new toy.
