1925 Series 80 Title

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    An interesting title has popped up on Ebay. I’ve attached the photo of it. It’s for a 1925 Pierce with an engine number 802053 and a “Factory Number” of 312894. The engine seems to be an early Series 80 engine but the factory number doesn’t make sense to me.

    Please note that the term “Factory Number” is what is used on the Illinois title. The car was titled in 1934.

    George, can you translate?


    Hi Bill,

    I’m on the road till Thurs nite. 802053 is an early Series 80: They skipped a lot of numbers, probably to make it look like they were selling more. 801001 thru 801250 were the first 250 cars, then the 251st was 802001. So this is about the 300th Series 80 built.

    The Factory Number 312894 makes no sense to me either. Series 80 engine numbers began with ’80’ like the serial (chassis) numbers, and were close to serial numbers. For example, one of mine is 803376-803379, and the other is 807739-807761. I suspect the Great State of Illinois may have assigned a number to a cylinder block, which was not numbered (the crankcase bore the engine number). Other interpretations welcomed!



    Could the first digit ‘3’ really be an ‘8’?


    If the first digit was an ‘8’, the second digit is still a ‘1’, which would put in in the Series 81 range instead of the Series 80 and 053 to 894 is too much for the engine/serial numbers to be off.

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