Tool Roll on eBay

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Here is a Tool Roll on eBay. It looks like it was just put together.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pierce-Arrow-Tool-Roll-Kit-Hammer-Wrench-/302166631256

I am looking for a Series 80 Brake Adjusting Tool. If anyone has one that

they would sell to me please let me know.

Thank you,

Ken

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Hi Ken and Twila. This is my Pierce Series 81 5 passenger sedan. Finally figured out how to send a photo.

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David,

We did see the Picture and Twila and I both like it. We also enjoy the Facebook share.

Ken

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Thursday, 15-Dec-2016 at 08:46 AM

Hi Ken, that tool kit is, as you said, assembled from various sources.. The tool roll is the type used with the Series 80/81 cars.

The thin ‘water pump’ wrench is for ’29 and later cars, as the S80/81 water pumps did not have a hex packing nut.

But this water pump wrench is stamped with the >Pierce> logo, which is nice to have for a later car’s kit.

A complete kit, with the correct size and logo-stamped tools would run closer to $2000, if you add up the usual retail prices of >Pierce> marked tools.

The usual prices for some >Pierce> marked tools:

Screwdrivers, medium and large: $75-$125. A rare rubber handled one sold this year for more than $200.

Pliers, depending on condition and maker: $100-$150

Hammer, depending on condition and maker: $75-$125

Spark plug Socket: $75-$100. The separate handle can be unmarked, stamped Fairmont, or have the >Pierce>

Various sizes of double open end wrenches, Fairmont: $25-$45 each. These often have ‘spread’ jaws/openings.

The ‘sideways’ 90* 7/8″ wrench for the valve lifter lock nut: $50-$75, they have various different >Pierce> logos

Single open-end 11/16″, for valve adjusting: $25-$75,

Socket wrench or ‘L-wrench’ socket end, 5/8″, for original cylinder head nuts, most cylinder head nuts are replaced with 11/16″ nuts, some with 3/4″ nuts [usually S81, with aluminum cylinder head] The 5/8″ is usually stamped with the >Pierce> logo. I’m sure the larger size socket w/handle wrenches might have been stamped, but I’ve never lucked upon one. $25-$85 each

Adjustable wrenches, The smaller 5″ one was likely sold with the Pierce Bicycles, it is much more common than the larger 7″ sized ones. Small: $50-$85, Large: $60-$90.

The much larger adjustable ‘Monkey Wrench’ was probably for Pierce Trucks, or maybe later cars, $50-%100

Stamped steel hubcap wrench, with 3 hex openings for the Hub Caps, rear axle nut, front wheel bearing nut, and also has a square hole for the wheel puller’s threaded shaft. : $50-$100

The correct Alemite grease gun, is not marked, the body is cast pot metal. They were used to inject Pierce’s Special Compound, aka: Liquid Grease,, which is close to 600w/1200W oil today.. If not broken, and the pot metal threaded filler cap is not stuck or broken : $75-$100. If stuck/broken: $30-$50. These do not work well on modern zerk fittings and do not work wit ,

Please note: The guy to contact and who has a MUCH more intimate and thorough knowledge on all wrenches and jacks for early cars is Karl Krouch, from Mechanicsburg Pa. He’s listed in the roster. He has a huge tent every hear at Hershey with normally hundreds one various >Pierce> marked tools. As well as 1000’s of other logo-marked tools for virtually every car prior to 1950. He is THE tool-guy.

I’m sure some of my prices are too ‘general’, some obviously can be ‘beat’ if you find a tool at a swap meet that is not recognized as ‘Pierce’. Some tools will be found that are quite pricey. Only a very few, very rare examples like that rubber-handled screwdriver are rare enough to be ‘pricey’..

Greg Long

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Somehow I ended up with a pile of T-handle wrenches, all marked Pierce….anyone know what this particular tool was used for?

By the way, Greg, I think your valuations are valid….I think the screwdrivers seem to be the slightly more difficult thing to find….the other interesting thing, I think, I have a very small open end wrench, and a very big open end wrench, in my pile of tools…I’m thinking maybe bicycle on the one and truck on the other….Pierce jacks are fairly common, I do have one very large Pierce jack that had to be a truck accessory, it’s big and heavy…. thanks David C.

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Greg,

Thank you for the valuations. I have put your blog in my Pierce Arrow file.

I really would like to have a Front Brake Adjusting tool for my Series 80 if anyone has and extra one they would sell me.

Ken

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Hi Ken, sorry, the ‘Project: Front Brake Adjusting Wrench’ go sidelined by Christmas, Winter weather, etc. I wanted to have some made up, and sell them through the Museum..

Do you need this to do an actual brake adjustment? or to fill a slot in your tool bag ??

Greg

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David, I think those ‘Tee’Wrenches were for turning on and off a fuel valve on some early cars,, I have found that on SOME Series 80 cars, that the 5/16″ square socket will fit an original pipe-threaded plug in the top of the Stewart-Warner vacuum fuel tanks.. This is the center plug that is removed to prime the fuel tank, when it has run dry during a long storage period.

There seems to be a LOT of these ‘Tee’ Wrenches, I think I have at least 4 of them.. and they are marked >Pierce>.

Greg Long

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Greg,

I actually do need the tool to adjust the brakes. It doesn’t have to happen right

away as I am not driving the car.

Thank you,

Ken

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That would make sense, for the square fitting on the plug on a vacuum tank, thanks, hadn’t thought of that….

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