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John and Susan’s ’36 1601 Sedan in Historic Williamsburg.

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We also had a great time. It was good to see everybody. Thanks John and Susan for putting it together.

A Pierce-Arrow found at the Keystone Truck and Tractor Museum. A 1924 Model Z bus chassis with a General Mfg. build up. It looked like an oversized Series 33.

Dave

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Bill,

I have several different thicknesses of gasket material in my shop and I measured one at .0095 thick. It is stamped Mc Cord and I purchased it at a local auto parts store many years ago. I did a web search for Mc Cord and all I came up with is lawsuits against them. I am guessing they are out of business or have been bought out. What I have left is a small piece so unless what you need it for is really small, I can’t help you. NAPA sells some Fel Pro roll material that is .015 thick. I suggest you contact Fel-Pro.

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Try PAS Service Bulletins 1974-1 and 2004-6.

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Tony,

Edwin Oberhaus is the last listed owner, but that is before 2000. Nothing since. Prior to him, Aldrich Iverson, and prior to him, Charles Kugel (77-78). This includes a note that says that the car was last driven in a parade in 1946 and possibly was not driven between 1933 and 1946.

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Tony,

Can he get the Serial Number? It’s not listed on Hyman’s site. With the serial number the owner history can be looked up.

Dave

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Here is some more on light numbers from PASB 1998-1.

Peter, Thanks. I don’t know it, just where (or who) to find it.

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Jim,

I haven’t run across anything, but will keep my eyes open.

Dave

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Hi Peter,

Chris Diekman handles the Parts and Services Directory. I got their info and passed it on to him.

Dave

http://www.classicgenerator.com/

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Bob,

Thanks, I would like to see the article and will publish it in the PASB as long as that isn’t a problem with CCCA.

I also am skeptical that detergent oil will loosen “chunks”” of deposits that occur when an engine has previously run on non-detergent oil. I would love to see a “”real”” study on the subject.

Dave

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Robert,

I think we are pretty much in agreement on all of it. I am going to try to stay with oil at the 800PPM level. The link below is to an article by a GM Engineer on oil myths, just in case you haven’t seen it.

Dave

http://www.nonlintec.com/sprite/oil_myths.pdf

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Hi Rod,

I spoke with Kent at Clean Sweep a couple of days ago about wiper rebuilding for an upcoming PASB (you’re a couple of months early on your request). He provided lots of information including that he has spare used wiper motors that he can rebuild. I do not know if he knows which one is the correct one for a Series 80 but it wouldn’t hurt to give him a call and ask. One warning, be prepared for a long phone call. He likes to talk about old cars, Pierce-Arrows in particular.

Clean-Sweep – Kent Jaquith

2633 SW Obsidian, Unit #15

Redmond, OR 97756

[email protected]

Phone: (541) 923-4319

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Bill,

Yes, kind of the opposite. You step up into the Pierce and down into the Morgan. Mine is an 03 +8 35th Anniv. with only 8500 miles. It had 750 miles when I purchased it 5 years ago.

I think we’re getting more than slightly off topic, so I’ll knock it off now.

Dave

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Bill,

Thanks for the good words. That one was a joint effort by a lot of folks. I just organized it. If you have any topics you would like to see in the PASB, let me know. It’s even better if you want to write something.

I think I recall seeing on here at some point you are a Morgan owner. I have a Plus 8.

Dave

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Hi Tony,

My ’28 reportedly was sold new in New York and it has the fender lights.

Come on over and we can do an unscientific test and put my ’27 and ’28 side by side at night and see which has the brighter lights.

Actually, If there are fender lights under the tree I hope they have a car attached to them…..

Dave

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Tom,

My 1927 Series 36 has Bracket Headlights. Information that I have on the car says the Bracket Lights were an extra $250 over the fender lights. A lot of money in those days. They do give it a different look, not so easily recognizable as a Pierce-Arrow, maybe not for everybody.

You may also see the Bracket Headlights referred to as “New York”” headlights. This is based on a rumor (unproven as far as I know) that the fender headlights were illegal in New York during that time.

Dave”

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Timing is everything…..

It came from an earlier Message Board thread, so the unedited version is on here somewhere.

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Bill,

The soon to arrive Service Bulletin has an article on this same topic with additional information on thread repair and general cooling system information.

Dave

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Dave,

Thru 2021 is correct, Donna will be sending you an e-mail with an explanation.

Dave

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Ronald, I noticed on the AACA Forum that he winters in SoCal, so if you don’t get him, check that forum, I think I saw a winter number.

Dave

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