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This is out of the 1930 Parts Book, the last one with drawings.  I don’t know if it will help you or not.  As far as a Borescope, you can pick one up at Harbor Freight for $60-70.

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Carl,

Thanks for the info. It has been added to the Parts and Services Directory.

Dave

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Brett,

Below is a table of the various cylinder heads from  Service Bulletin 89-2. Strangely, it doesn’t list the Model 51. (same as 52?) The number/letter in the column “Mark” is stamped on a small flat (1″ long) in front of the water outlet. This will tell you what head you have and you can identify other heads as to which ones they are.  One other thing to note, in 1932 and ’33 cap screws were used to hold the head on. In ’34 Pierce switched to studs with a nut. The earlier engines have a locator pin in the block and a corresponding hole in the head (roughly enter of the head), the stud engines do not have this pin or the hole in the head.

Another PASB article mentioned that the small ’32 12 heads are specific to that model and others won’t interchange.

I have a cracked head on my ’33 1247. The spare head that came with the car is a ’34, without the locator hole. The two cracks run from the spark plug hole down the head (about 2″). I have done a temporary fix to keep the car operational with JB Weld. So far, no leaks. I do plan on replacing or repairing the head.

It is possible to have the head repaired.  “Lock and Stitch” is well known for successful repairs. There are also welders that can weld cast iron successfully. John Cislak is a likely source for a head.  413/543-9017  Email: [email protected]

Dave

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Click on the Red issue number and it will download a pdf.  Scroll down for the earlier issues.  If you can’t get them, I can e-mail the issues.

 

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I know at least one of the issues I saw on the search had information on the facing material.  Good luck!

 

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Use the Technical Search Tool to find articles on your clutch.  I put 51 in the Model Field and Clutch in the Title Field. and got a lot of hits.  You can download each issue by clicking on the red issue title.  You will get a few hits on the Model 51 from ’19-20 which obviously don’t apply.

Dave

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https://pierce-arrow.org/members/service-bulletin-library/  Scroll down a ways and there is a list of all of the Service Bulletins. If you are looking for a specific topic, use the Technical Search Tool.  Don’t be too specific with your search terms.

Yes, when I went to enter the car I saw that it was on Scott’s record.  I am assuming you are not Scott? There is no first name on your account. So who actually owns the car now?

Dave

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Scott,

I will get the car onto your account.

Digital pdf copies of the PASBs are available on the website.  Member Pages > Publications and technical > Service Bulletin Library.

Dave

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Randy,

There are also LED Headlight Bulbs available. A lot brighter and draw a lot less electricity. You can tell they are there, so not authentic for a show car.  They are a whiter light.  Check Restoration Supply or some of the Model A suppliers.

Dave

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Carl,

There is nothing in the Weis Files or the PAS database to point to this car.  There are not a lot of 1909 66s, and none with an owner name of Johnston. Minneapolis Fire Dept converted several P-A 48s and 66s to fire apparatus, but this occurred in the teens and early 20s, earlier than the article above.  Dave

This is a Minneapolis FD shop-built smoke extractor assembled in 1926 on a used 1920 Pierce-Arrow touring car chassis. The smoke extractor was patented by MFD Chief of Department Charles Ringer. It is missing the metal tubes on the sides. This is the first chassis the smoke extractor was mounted on. In 1935 it was re-mounted on a 1935 Ford chassis. In the 1940s it was mounted on a trailer and towed to fires. Then, in 1953 it was re-mounted on a 1952 Ford chassis.

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Thanks for the information. PAS records also show a Nicolas Ronco. Is this your father?

Dave

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Mena,

It is a nice looking car.  I added the photos you posted onto the car’s PAS record. The record shows you father having it since October 1950. If you can post or e-mail me the info on your uncle’s ownership, I will add that to the record. It is very unusual to find a Pierce-Arrow that is still owned by the original family.  Thanks, Dave

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Raymond,

I may have a digital copy. There are no pictures in the ’33 manual, just names and part numbers. I am on the road right now and will check on the manual when I get home. I also have a ’33 1247.

 

Dave

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Amos,

The 1969-3 Arrow has a lot of information about the Travelodge. If you don’t have this issue, I can e-mail you a copy.

 

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From PASB 2020-3:

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The links to the two manuals that Carl provided are now listed under “Service Manuals” in the Parts and Services Directory” and can be downloaded there.  They are VERY large (100’s of MB) downloads. They are viewable without downloading. Thanks to Carl for providing the links.

Pierce issued a number of Service Bulletins under various names, over the life of the company.  Mark has supplied some digital copies to the PAS (’20s era) and I will be publishing them on occasion in the PAS Service Bulletin. Thank you Mark.  Some are also in the PAS Library available at the AACA Library. Some have been published in past PAS Service Bulletins and should turn up in a PASB search on the website.

If anyone knows of a full set (roughly 600 or more) of the Service Letters,/Bulletins, I would like to digitize them for use in our Service Bulletin. Mark has gotten the process started. Eventually I would like to index them and make them  available on the website as was done with the PAS Service Bulletins.

Dave

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The links to these manuals have been posted in the Parts and Services Directory under “Service Manuals”.

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Carl,

Thanks for posting the links. Both of these manuals are downloadable, but are very large files.

The Pierce-Arrow Tune up information from the National Service Manual is provided in PAS Tune up Guide available in the Company Store.

Dave

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Carl,

I am pretty sure that I have a digital copy. I am out of the country until Wednesday. I can check when I get home. It will be a large file and will have to be sent using Wetransfer or something similar.

Dave

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Kevin,

Service Bulletin 1981-2 (page 11 ) has a number of lubrication charts including 840A.  On this website, under Member Pages, go to the Publications  & Technical tab and then Service Bulletin Library, find that issue and you can download it. Let me know if you have trouble getting it.

Dave

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