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Next week is fine, fabricator has ordered materials and we’re proceeding….thanks dc

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OK, understood! Thanks dc

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Thanks, Greg….11 orders and 7 deposits in hand as of today…thanks to all supporting this…David C.

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Thanks for all who are supporting this project. I now have 11 orders and 6 deposits in hand, so the project is a go.

I sent an email to all 1929-1931 open car owners listed in the roster.

It’s time consuming, I may do the same for closed car owners.

If you know someone who might be interested in one of these, please contact me. It will be a one time run with no extras.

Again, thanks to all who’ve supported the project. I understand now what trials and tribulations people who initiate such projects go through, the whole time worrying that the end result will make everyone happy. I’m in that group, the fabricator has told me it will be as close to original as possible, but I’d hate to anger even one person. Remember, though, it’s my money too, as I need a replacement for my worn out original mag.

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One problem that has come up on using a Cub Cadet or Dodge Brothers starter/generator, with belt drive over flywheel:

To get the right torque to turn the engine, the drive pulley needs to be small, and of course the driven pulley is the diameter of the flywheel.

Let’s say you use a 3 inch drive pulley on a 15 inch flywheel (diameters). Starts fine with good torque, but then at 1500 rpm on flywheel, starter/generator is turning 7500 rpm! Doubt most would take that.

On a Dodge Brothers, maximum rpm for a s/g is about 3500 rpm.

Testing would tell if a larger drive pulley would work, but at most, it couldn’t be more than about a 3:1 ratio…..

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I’ve also given permission to reprint the article in a future issue of the AACA magazine, so at some point it may appear there. It was specific to a Pierce Arrow, but applies to a lot of the high end cars.

Glad it was of some help! dc

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Craig, I just sent one, let me know if for some reason you didn’t receive. thanks

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Ed, I haven’t seen it before, either, that’s one reason I was asking. Thanks dc

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I applaud your ingenuity, and doubly applaud not falling prey to the foam monster! As mentioned, original springs are quite specifically engineered, and I’m sure that over the years numerous cars have springs that weren’t fixed nor put together correctly when repaired.

Well done, a good solution to a difficult problem. By the way, Marshall springs have quite a history and go back quite a ways.

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I now have 9 firm orders, and am proceeding. If you know of anyone who might want one, please let me know. I’ll place order early in December, and won’t be able to add more to order, if I understand the manufacturer correctly, he has to order materials in bulk. thanks for those supporting this project…dc

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As of today I have 7 firm commitments for these floor mats. We need 10 commitments for this project to be viable.

If you have any questions, please email or call me. thanks David C.

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There was a booth at Hershey that had a display of pocket watches for sale, with every major car manufacturer you could think of, and some you couldn’t. Must have had 40 or more different ones. I’d love to see an original Pierce pocket watch, but they are apparently truly rare. I have numerous Pierce pocket watches in my collection, all bought years ago, and I doubt any is real….

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The other influence is whether it’s a cushion bike….spring loaded under seat and leaf spring front fork, both of which drive up prices. Ed is correct about men’s bike more valuable than lady’s bike.

A good original shaft drive with regular suspension 2500-3000. With full cushion frame, same bike is 4000 or more. Buffalo badged bikes bring a premium over Angola badged bikes. Excellent original condition command a premium over those values.

The problem with restoration is that a lot of collectors want original bikes, plus it’s easy to restore and put an earlier badge on it. I stay away from bikes that have screws holding badge on, originals were riveted.

My prices are estimates based on watching the market, Ed probably has better information. There are SO many variables that add or detract value in the turn of the century (TOC) bicycle market.

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Ed, do you know someone who has done the Cub Cadet starter / belt on a 40 hp or so car?

I’d like to do it but speeds, pulley size, other questions arise…

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Find someone that knows how to adjust mechanical brakes, as I’m assuming you’re saying the brakes are pulling when applied. It takes someone with patience and mechanical ability, but well adjusted mechanical brakes work great…

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She’s not a member, but thanks to Rick have the name now, thanks!

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Excusez-moi, s’il vous plait…..my mother called them sin closets….

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