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A henweigh is the introduction to a joke for which Bob provided the punch line, da, da, da!

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Brooks & Don,

I believe that chasing down old Rosters is the key.

Years ago, I contacted the New York State DMV to get copies of past registrations for my Series 80.

It has only had 4-owners, 3 from my family and was bought by Great Uncle Joe Waldorf from the original owner, Myron Forbes – then president of the PAMCC.

The NYS DMV person told me that they did not have records past about 20-yers or so (I forget).

However, maybe some States’ DMVs do, and chasing down the registration past sounds like fun.

A body, chassis or engine number will likely be required.

Another source of information might be Jam and Mary Ann Sandoro a the Buffalo Transportation Museum (www.Pierce-Arrow.com).

Have fun,

Peter

http://www.Pierce-Arrow.com

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Bob,

I got a new chain for my Series 80 from: Ramsey Products Corp.

They were excellent and quick with the turn-around.

Here is their contact info.

Email to:[email protected]

Web: http://www.ramseychain.com

Phone: (704) 394-0322

Fax: 704-394-9134

I hope that this helps.

Peter

http://www.ramseychain.com

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Gents,

I took these photos durning an engine rebuild, so the placement of the oil feed tube on this photo appears a bit rough.

Peter

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Gents,

On my Series 80, I ran an external oil line from the base of the oil filter, parallel to the cylinder block and through the back of the timing chain / crankcase cover.

It feeds the engine oil, post filtration, through that copper line and drops it on top of the timing chain.

I will post a photo soon.

It is a slick installation.

Peter

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Brooks,

It is always Super (in the 1920s meaning of the word) to hear from you.

You are a veritable fount of information on all things Pierce-Arrow.

I have Bernie’s list and recently reviewed it regarding the Sinclair Powell, Series 81, Pierce-Arrow.

There is no listing of owners prior to Sinclair.

I respond here to head off unnecessary effort to track the history of that particular Pierce-Arrow.

Best regards,

Peter

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David,

You are a good director on many levels!

Thanks for your useful input and service to PAS and to the M-B.

Peter

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Eric,

BTW, have you tested the brakes in a Parking Lot and not just on the street?

If so, and you are confident that it is not the crown of the road that causes the car to drift to the right when you apply the brakes, then you need to follow David’s suggestion, which may include learning to adjust the brakes yourself.

From my experience of lying under my Series 80 for countless hours, adjusting the brakes is not that difficult.

Perhaps, it is more difficult on a 1932, Model 54, but also perhaps, other Model 54 owners will chirp in.

Peter

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Gents,

I used, as Greg suggested, a small amount of Permatex Ultra-Black to ensure the seal.

When sealed, I swapped to the two-wire clamps.

Peter

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David,

I told you that Rick ain’t no Lady, he is a veritable font of P-A information. HA!

Peter

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Eric & David,

The Bernie Files show that the car was previously owned by: John J. Doherty, 10808 E. 48th St., Spokane, WA 99206.

It lists the engine # as: A-8814.

I trust that this information helps.

Peter

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David,

There are two listed on the Roster, one owned by Rick Horne, and he AIN’T NO LADY!

The other is owned by Karen & Tom Fuller.

Peter

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Gents,

I installed the double wire clamps and no matter what I did, they leaked.

Then I installed the modern SS-band type to SET the newly installed hoses.

After running the engine through a few heating / cooling cycles, I removed the SS-band type clamps and the double wire clamps sealed quite nicely.

They just needed a bit of heat the rubber to properly seal the hoses.

At the time, I didn’t have the patience to tolerate the major leaks long enough for them to become effective.

Peter

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David,

In the day, DeJon made high end electric pieces for Pierce-Arrow.

My Series 80 had a DeJon Starter on it when I acquired it from my Uncle’s estate many years ago.

I still have the DeJon starter, but was able to find an excellent Pierce-Arrow DELCO starter somewhere along the line.

I have also acquired a DeJon generator, with distributor set up, but have not restored it and do not intend to put it on my Series 80.

Peter

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Robert,

HA! Greg Long probably has a dozen.

Peter

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David,

The engine AND the chassis numbers are on the Data Plate, as shown in a photo online.

It seems that Bonhams listed it as number 339326, which is the chassis number and the photo supplied shows the engine stamping.

Finally, it appears that it is only a 2-wheel brake car, as on the Bonham website, the photos reveal it as a 2-wheel brake car.

They also list it as a 1922.

All in, it looks to be a very handsome Pierce-Arrow at a very good initial offering price.

Peter

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Arndt,

There seem to be no listing for this Pierce-Arrow in the listing history of known P-A cars (as of 2012).

However, here is at least some information: S/N#s – 339000 – 339999, (1924-25), (4-wheel brakes began at 339001; “1925” calendar year production began at 339713).

I am sorry that I cannot be of further assistance.

Peter

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Gents,

I just reported this trademark infringement to eBay.

They should pull the listing.

Cheers,

Peter

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Gents,

That is a piece of high-priced crap using a pirated historically significant marque’s trademarked name.

If they used the name Rolls Royce, they would be NUKED!

GO GET THEM MARK & ALLEN.

PEter

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