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Greg,

All of what you wrote is fine, but remember that my Series 80 runs a Stromberg O-3, Series 81 carburetor on it.

If the carburetor has a real choke on it, that is great, however, my Series 80 does not have a “Choke” knob, but a “Rich – Lean” slide on the dash and that adjusts the level of choke, which I usually run mid-way between Rich & Lean.

Peter

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Jack,

How about a photo?

The Series 80 has a slide that is a “RICH – LEAN” lever, and no “CHOKE.”

I believe that the Rich-Lean lever IS the choke.

The Series 81 must be different.

Also, the problem with detail parts for the Series 81 if they are different from those on the Series 80 is that the PAMCC made very few Series 81 cars.

Peter

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Gents,

Here is the guy that I used for a number of casting projects.

He does great work with reasonable turn around.

Peter

Walter Butler

New England Castings

57 Main Street

Post Office Box 295

Hiram, Maine 04041

(207) 625-3256

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Jack,

Are you talking about the PRIMER PULL or the Rich-Lean assembly?

If the former, contact Wayne or Marc Hancock (PAS members).

If the latter, I DK.

Peter

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Eric,

Note George Teebay’s comments on types of cutouts.

You can find them on eBay (by number) and as Mr. Ed pointed out, carry a spare.

I have three or four spares and have never needed them.

Just as I installed an electric winch in my trailer after I blew a piston and needed to have a gang of PAS Gents push my Series 80 into my trailer (it has never been used).

Peter

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Tony,

It is wonderful to have excellent memories of mentors.

I did not know Roland, but I knew Leo and he was a Real Man.

He once commented longingly on my cigar smoking, but declined my offer of one for him to burn.

It is a shame and I wish he would have taken it, for he died within a year or so.

It would have been a high point for me to have smoked a cigar with Leo.

Cigar smokers know that burning “sacred tobacco” is an investment in personal leisure time.

Peter

PS: To amend my previous comment, I now substitute SMILE for Laugh. Thank You.

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Tony,

I occasionally don’t agree with you, BUT I ALWAYS LAUGH at your COMMENTS!

You are a Good Man, Tony,

Peter

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It may be a matter of tradition, but It should be listed under ACTIVITIES and ANNOUNCEMENTS, not on the Message Board!

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Jack,

The water jacket bolts don’t need to be torqued, per se, but sufficiently tight so that the jacket does not leak around the perimeter or at the holes.

The way to test is to fill the cylinder bock with water and see if / where it leaks.

Then tighten the bolt associated with the leak a touch and see if it stops.

Then, move on down the line.

I not only used the cork gasket, but used Permatex Ultra Black on each side of the gasket to make it adhere.

I also used a touch, to a minor glob, of the Permatex on each of the bolt threads to seal them a bit more.

Maybe even a touch on the inboard ID of each crush washer.

Any “free floating” Permatex pieces in the cooling system will get captured in your fancy, new fangled, ladies’ hosiery toe, cooling system filter.

Have fun.

Peter

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Jack,

We are trying to keep you from going cylinder head NUTS!

And you would go NUTS if you ever over-torque those cylinder head fasteners and crack that aluminum cylinder head.

HA!

Peter

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Jack,

Torque to 50-psi max, run until at driving / operating temperature, re-torque when cold, repeat in two weeks, repeat in two weeks.

Peter

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Jack,

My Dear Departed Mechanical Engineer Father used to tell me: IF IT IS NOT BROKEN, DON’T FIX IT!

In those days, every time I tried to FIX something that was not broken, I broke it.

In this regard, a Wiser Man, I never knew.

Peter

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Gents,

I just copied this from the CCCA website: CCCA Approved Classics (updated 4/1/2019).

“Pierce-Arrow – 1915-1924; All; 1921 Series 32; 1922 and up Series 33; 1925 All.”

And Ed, you were saying what about ALL P-A cars being included?

BTW, this discussion seems to be going downhill and I take some responsibility for rolling certain marques over the cliff.

Peter

http://www.classiccarclub.org/grand_classics/approved_classics_2019.html

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Make sure that they were introduced on the Series 81 and not just the senior cars.

Per Ed’s comment, if absolutely necessary, an extra washer or two will take up some gap.

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Jack,

As you now know, you can buy the AN900-4 crush gaskets / washers from another supplier for about $1.20 each.

Also, speaking of money, ask your wife about women and their shoes and purses, IF YOU DARE!

Peter

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Jack,

Use stainless steel nuts and polish them if you wish.

I don’t believe that they are supposed to be chrome anyway.

Peter

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Jack,

BTW, I don’t think that you can REAM those washers / gaskets because they are VEARY FRAGILE!

Peter

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Jack,

Didn’t you recceive the email I sent you with a source for the AN900-4 crush washers?

That is the correct size and the company seemed to have them for sale.

Peter

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Ken,

That registration has been offered on eBay few times according to the Bernie Weis records.

Here are the details.

It seems as if the EDL is gone.

Peter

1925 PA registration, plate #59590. (copy from Paul Jacobs, orig. offered on eBay Oct. ’08)

1924 PA registration, plate #67262 (copy from Bob Sands, orig. offered on eBay, June 2010)

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Ed,

YOU ARE A HOOT!

Peter

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