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I’d be glad to share in whatever manner is deemed appropriate.

To me, there are different areas of Pierce memorabilia:

-the pre- bicycle Geo. N. Pierce items (ice box, bird cage feeders, bird cage)

– bicycles and related items, Buffalo made

-factory items or literature

-dealer items (give-always, advertising, literature)

-Duplex oil cans, made for Pierce Arrow use

-companies that promoted Pierce Arrow vehicles in their advertising or give-always

-items that have the Pierce Arrow name, but not directly made by Pierce (wagons, pedal cars, Converse 1910 toy car, etc.)

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Bob, thanks for clarification on the original red and the “newer” reproduction….I’d like to get one of those repro, too.

If anyone runs across an extra original red, I’d be a buyer, or possibly trade something I have a duplicate of…

It’s funny with Pierce memorabilia, I have hundreds of items, and just when I think I’ve seen it all, something new pops up….

12 display cases chock full of small items, a display case full of bigger items, and then of course the big stuff, ice box, pedal car, wagon, bicycles, Stanhope engine, and so forth.

Guess it sounds like bragging, I’m just passionate about Pierce stuff and rarely get to share it with others….

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Alan, I’m waiting to verify engine numbers and see if the engine is correct. Also, it depends somewhat on what he’s asking for the engine, as it would just be bought to “be” with car, I would not plan to rebuild and install.

I’ve always been somewhat of a purist, so I like the idea of having it. Cords are fairly easy to document, and while I’m not a fan of the overused term “matching numbers”, that’s what we’re talking about.

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I’m having a little trouble finding the buttons in my storage space, they’ll show up. I have one I’ll send to Ken, and as to more, wait until I can find everything, and I’ll repost.

I have a lot of Pierce stuff that I’ll sell before too long, duplicates that I don’t need.

I’ve had trouble finding stuff lately. Hope it’s not old age, I’d like to think that I’m just so “stuff-rich” that it’s overwhelming!

Then again, my father used to say that his “forgetter is working overtime”….

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Sorry, you’ll have to stand on your head to read the one page. I would assume one might print them out to read?

In an interesting side note, the author told me in his “permission” email that he’d just bought a large pile of Cord 810-812 parts, and in the pile is the original engine for my 1937 Cord phaeton! He wonders if I want it. My car was refurbished at the factory in the early 1950’s, with a replacement engine and transmission. When I had the car certified at the ACD festival, I worried about that, the head guy laughed and said maybe half the Cords out there have the wrong engine in them! I think he was exaggerating, but…

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OK, I have permission from Jim to post his article, am going to try to do so here, it’s three pages so might be three posts if it works….

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Was that meet in the 1960’s? I have some that came out of the estate of an early past President, and most of the other stuff dates to that time frame….

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I will, Greg…would like to post here, waiting to hear back from author of piece…

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If you’re a member of the ACD Club, there’s a very good article on different types of bulb conversions.

While the Cord 810/812 is highlighted (so to speak), it has information that is general also.

It’s three pages long. I think I’d have to ask permission of the author to scan and post, I’ve sent him an email, if he agrees will do so….

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I think it was a good deal, too, for someone who wants a great tour car.

I know the car is very nice, but am sure that the older restoration had something to do with the seemingly low price. The high rollers want perfect cars, and anything that has an project potential brings less money.

I like the fact that it’s an eight cylinder. I can take an eight apart and fix things, I can’t say the same for a twelve.

This is a car that’s been sorted out and proven, and as long as someone doesn’t mind a little wear on a car, would be a wonderful driving car.

Hope too that it shows up in the PAS….

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I understand the ’32 convertible sedan went for right at 100K, an older restoration, but still seems like a very fair price for an open, tour proven, car….

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Since Ed mentioned my name, thought I’d make a comment. John Cislak rebuilt my carb (UUR-2) and mechanical fuel pump (sorry, I hate electric pumps) for my ’31 Model 43.

The difference is incredible. Smoother starts and running, more power, better throttle response.

My work must have been done before price increases, as it was very reasonable.

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Here’s picture, details not yet posted on auction site

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Those “experts” are victims of a form of psychological transference. Their thought process is that “I don’t have any interest in brass cars, so nobody has any interest in brass cars”. I believe the current theme of “no one wants an old car anymore” is being driven by this thinking.

Big brass will bring big dollars. Though there are a lot of big collections out there owned by older people, and more and more early cars will come on the market, there is still a base of people who want brass cars.

I remember when the Harrah’s auctions were supposed to affect the entire old car market, that many cars sold at once would surely lower prices. Not only were record prices for the time paid, but the cars were swallowed up in the collector car community easily.

There are some great cars coming out of the Boulton collection, go get ’em guys!

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I think you got it right, Greg! I looked at my number and year, and a casual glance showed that at least one person who joined AFTER me has a lower number! Oh well, doesn’t matter in the least as far as I know….

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I didn’t realize we had a membership number??

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I had a nice talk with Kevin.

What a shame, he had a more or less complete truck, similar to the one that was featured in the Museum newsletter. He tried to sell it, no takers, so he kept what was left of the engine and scrapped the rest.

The engine is apparently in sad shape, as he said, it will never run again. Guess some parts might help people out.

He’s sending me pictures (snail mail, he doesn’t do email) of the wrenches and such, doesn’t sound like anything that’s unusual.

Thanks for lead, had a nice talk with him…..

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