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Glad to know it really worked, and as I tell my kids, you’re mostly welcome!!
Wow, great information, thanks for posting, don’t know how you could have such a heavy item shipped, that far, for any less!
If you have the body wood down to bare wood, seal it with West System, then spray or daub black paint on it. It would not have been stained.
I’m a good bit of a purist, but the hydraulic lifters are hard to beat…that’s how I’d go….
I think the natural wood looks good on the 32 or so and back cars, later in the 30’s it doesn’t seem as natural a look, so to speak….I’m putting a top on a 1940 Packard 160 convertible sedan now, a lot of these restored have natural wood but I’ve covered the back bow and front header with bowdrill (rest of bows are metal) and it looks correct….
Wood frame of the body, or wood frame of the top (bows)?
Normally, the body wood was painted black, some early photos (not Pierce) show workers “daubing” paint on the interior wood with a rag. This does not have a fine finish on it, as most of it was hidden. By interior wood, I mean the body framework which ends up behind the upholstery or under/behind the seat. A flat or semi-gloss paint would be appropriate.
Any body wood that shows after upholstery (such as door jambs) would be painted body color.
If you’re talking about the top bows, that might be an interesting discussion. The bows on my ’31 phaeton are, as far as I know, original, and have never been painted. They are varnished or sealed but the wood grain shows.
Man, if that’s the dark side, save a seat over there for me…….
I really like my ’38 1604 Packard convertible coupe, but it’s not even in the same league as that car…outstanding….
Ed, you get to play with all the right toys!!
No, I think it was “You kill ’em, We’ll chill ’em”…..
Speaking of one stop shopping, my father’s home town is a little South Louisiana place called Mansura….and right across from the church is a big sign, “Escude’s Mortuary and Life Insurance”…I’ll see if I can find the picture, have it somewhere…
By the way, the silver tape measure in the background of the first fob picture is a give-away from a funeral home, on the front it is engraved “Gill Mortuary Market 182 Wichita”” and on the back “”Gill Ambulance Service Market 182 Pierce Arrow Equipment”” !!”
….and a real 1901-1911 medal….
back of watch fob….
Yes, agree with Ed.
An authentic watch fob should have writing engraved on the back, manufacturers name I think, and usually a silk ribbon. Side by side with a repro, it’s “richer” looking too. I’ll post two pics of one, to be verified original by Ed!! He saw some of my memorabilia collection so hopefully this is one of the ones he’s referencing!
The belt buckles seem to be fake, as mentioned, they pop up quite often so that’s probably the truth.
The Pierce 1901-1911 anniversary medal also pops up as a fake, I think someone did a batch of them in the ’60’s. VERY easy to tell real from fake, the real ones have a heft to them like bronze or something similar, the fake ones are very light like aluminum. I’ll post a picture of a real one.
Shucks, Peter, did I say $25? Of course I meant $2500!
I started collecting Pierce memorabilia a good while ago, and these buckles show up every now and then, and I was told once they were repros. The Zimmerman name is the one that seems to pop up every once and a while, and the two other names I have are the only ones I’ve seen other than that. It’s an odd thing to repro, though, and with the different names even odder. Does anyone have any knowledge of the truth? I can handle the truth….
The wording is funny, too, “Great Arrow the compliments of”….
Just sharing, Peter, not trying to outdo you!!!
Thanks for the info on Mr. Hopper, I searched but missed it….does anyone know the history of these belt buckles? Everyone has said, and I’m not questioning, that they are long ago reproductions, but to what purpose? And why do they have names of cyclists? Who reproduced them and when?
Inquiring minds want to know!! thanks!
I was at a relatively small auction close to Baltimore, was about 20 or so years ago…bicycles, motorcycles, and other memorabilia…and there was a very early, all original, Flying Merkel, that looked very similar to that picture.. and then it sold for over $80,000….I don’t know if it’s the name or the rarity, but big bucks!
Peter, thanks so much, I have a couple of those buckles with Zimmerman name, knew they were a reproduction, but didn’t know the connection to a bicyclist. If anyone wants one of these it’s available, I have two and would sell one for $25.
I also have two other of the same style buckle, one has name ‘Carl Nickum Waukegan Illinois” and the other “”Norman C. Hopper Salt Lake City Utah””. Any idea who those guys were?”
Mr. Watson is a little bit of a character. He advertised a tool roll on HCCA forums, took me a long time to get a picture and when I commented on missing tools “they’re around here somewhere”. Finally saw the roll at Hershey, at his motor home, he was asking too much for condition and couple of tools, I made him a fairly close offer and he said no, and was anxious for me to leave when he found out I wasn’t paying his price. He has a nice Pierce roadster, I think 31…I did see a picture of that.
Amen to that, well done, Craig, that was above and beyond the call of duty!
I always hate fooling with the headlights, knowing how valuable the glass is and how hard the garage floor is….
Have a very nice set of plastic lenses that I’m considering putting on my car, but see previous sentence as to why I’ve hesitated doing so!
A Studebaker lock ring of the same era is almost identical, it may have a different method of “locking”” the two ends together but it will work to get you down the road….”
