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Chris,

A write up and photos would be great for the Service Bulletin. Our members like to read articles about what people have done to bring their cars back.

Thanks, Dave

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Alan,

Here is weight and length information from the 1931 Dealer Data Book:

 

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Alan,

Greg told me he is planning on attending the Eureka Springs meet in June. He has improved greatly, but still has a long way to go.

Dave

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These guys seem to have a lot of lenses:  https://oldcarlenses.com/

A web  search turns up lots on Ebay and others, you’ll just have to wade through it.

 

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Glenn,

I would be nice to see a picture of the Monogram on your car.  Generally, the middle letter is the first letter of the last (Family) name, although I am sure there are exceptions depending on owner preference. First letter is the first initial and the third letter is the middle initial.

Below is a page from the 1932 Dealer Databook with Monograms.

 

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From PASB 2024-2, flow in GPM:

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Greg has moved to a rehab facility and is improving every day. He has been working on walking and has an appointment soon to see about having his back brace removed.

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Bob,

If I am understanding correctly what you are looking for, there are some available for other more modern cars on the internet. Below is one example. No measurement listed so it is possible they are too small for our larger drums.  You may have to make some phone calls for measurements.

Dave

https://www.classicindustries.com/product/h2316.html

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Hi Kirby,

The car looks fantastic. Can’t wait to see it in Eureka Springs.

Dave

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Bernie Weis recorded Eighteen 1938 cars. Six 8cyl and ten 12 cyl. and I guess two unknown. He estimated 33+ were made based on existing serial numbers and body numbers. He had information on 15 extant.  It’s anybody’s guess where the auction company got their numbers. Please post any further information you find.

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Here is another website that actually has color chips, although I am not sure how much they are worth with screen color variations, but it gives an idea. This is the Pierce-Arrow page.

https://paintref.com/cgi-bin/colorcodedisplaym.cgi?manuf=Pierce-Arrow&rows=50

A second thought on my opinion, as you mentioned, whatever your wife likes.

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Hi Calvin,

If it is any help, I have digital copies of the Dealer Data books for 1931. They list all of the standard color combinations (below). Sorry, no color chips. They are huge files and I would have to get them to you by file transfer. Let me know if you would like them.  Pierce-Arrow would paint cars to the customer’s desires as long as their Art and Color folks approved it, so pretty much anything is OK. I would expect that most of the LeBaron bodies were custom colors.

As far as to your question, my opinion is a very Dark Blue.

You might check this website, I know they list Pierce-Arrow colors from the era.

https://www.autocolorlibrary.com/

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1932. I believe that synchro was 2nd and 3rd.

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Jim,

Greg is still in the hospital, but is showing improvement every day.  Hopefully within the next week or so he will be transferred to a Rehab center. At this point he is not using his phone or computer.

Dave

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Jim,

Many of the cars are not known to PAS. I am constantly adding “new” vehicles to the list. Many new owners are not PAS members or if they are, they don’t register their vehicles with us. We have a large number of “Orphan” vehicles in the Roster for which we have no current owner information. If you buy or sell a Pierce-Arrow, please contact me to update the vehicle record.  [email protected] Any member can add a vehicle to their record, however if the vehicle is already in our database, this creates a duplicate record. Instead, the vehicle record needs to be transferred to the new owner which can only be done by the prior PAS owner or myself. The new owner cannot make the transfer.

Often what is listed as the Serial# is the engine # as back in the day it was common for states to use engine # for titles. Of course if the engine was changed, the VIN became incorrect.  The other thing I have noticed is that many people put down the casting number as the engine number. It is large and people see it first. All of the engine numbers are stamped. If you want to find the serial number on a P-A, go here for location information:  https://pierce-arrow.org/members/serial-number-and-identification/

Dave

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From Ken, Greg is still in very serious condition and in ICU, but seems to be holding his own. Ken is devoting all his energy toward Greg’s care so he has not been able to respond to messages and good wishes.  He thanks everyone for their prayers and concern.

 

 

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Dave,

I agree about the photos indicating ’35. Owner said ’34, so I put the (?).

Dave

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Hi Jim,

Yes, the Wiring/Tune up book just went up.  The Company Store only has a few left that are unbound so it seemed like a good time to post it.

If someone wants a printed version, they can still get one.

It’s possible that the web folks could put the links on the Manuals page, I will have to check, or maybe a reference to the P&S Directory. The P&S Directory is just an Excel Spreadsheet and is really easy to add or change when links move or go bad. Easier than webpage modifications.

From the pictures I saw of it, it looks like your ’35 is complete.

Dave

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There is a link to the “Standard Auto Electrician’s Manual 1928 Through 1937” in the Parts and Services Directory under Service Manuals. You can also download a pdf file from that location.

https://archive.org/details/StandardAutoElectriciansManual1928Through1937OCR824Pages/page/n211/mode/2up

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Robert,

If you can email it to me, I will see if I can get it up on the website.

Thanks, Dave

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