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Great car. From my experience, you have a couple of problems. The oil cooler circuit on the car is compromised, thus you have oil getting into the coolant and vice versa, depending on pressures.
The oil coolers are little honeycomb radiators, and usually can only be fixed by filling up the leaking cell with solder. The best bet is to disassemble the cooler and put in a bypass copper line, no cooling, it’s not necessary, although Pierce engineers thought so when they went to hydraulic valves.
The second thing, water pumps will suck in air. If the shaft is worn or not a good seal, then that’s a problem. Either make sure that there’s packing and/or water pump grease, or change the shaft and seal
Good luck.
I’ve discussed these cars with Mike, he has good offers on the cars now and is getting real close to selling, if you have any real interest now’s the time to move….I have no interest in these, either buying or selling, just making sure that someone doesn’t hesitate and lose out….
I don’t have experience with this company, but I just sold a car that’s going overseas, the buyer has a small museum and says these guys are excellent.
Thanks to everyone who came and shared the tour with us! It was great visiting with all….and I’m under orders to arrange better weather next year!!
The rain in the area is incredible, it rained all night and is still raining today, ground is soaked and my trailer (with Pierce in it!) is sunk in the yard…..
Not too late to come join us this Saturday! Three great car collections and lunch at a historic Inn……
Pierces from 1932(?) forward had 342 sq in of swept brake surface My’31 Model 43 has huge brake drums, something like four feet of brake shoe surface per wheel…no problem braking, but as mentioned, they have to be set up correctly.
One can’t drive an old car like a new car. Daily, I see people accelerating until the last second, then slamming on the brakes when they see a stop light or sign. Even in a modern car, I start slowing down well in advance of an anticipated stop, yet people tailgate and get PO’d that you’re slowing down.
If you drive your car frequently, go ahead and install hydraulics. If you drive occasionally, get the mechanicals up to par, otherwise you’ll spend your time fixing the hydraulics a LOT.
Most cars of the time, particularly Pierce, had adequate brakes if driven correctly. If they don’t work to your satisfaction, try to fix the basix problem first.
OK, off my soapbox now!
Yes, but Ford didn’t convert to hydraulic brakes until what, 1938 or 1939?
That tells me that mechanical brakes worked just fine.
It’s all in the condition and adjustment. Personally, I think hydraulic brakes are a pain in the arse, between corrosion and maintenance, I’d rather have a correct mechanical setup than fool with cylinders and leaks and such.
My ’31 Pierce has excellent mechanical brakes, set up and adjusted by an old time mechanic who knows his stuff. I’m of the opinion that when there’s complaint about how an old car drives, it’s because of condition of the old car being poor. If an old car had been hard to start, steer, stop, when new, they wouldn’t have been able to sell them.
That Pierce Stanhope has some issues just from a cursory inspection of the pictures. Nothing huge, but things that need attention.
The broker that advertises the car is notorious for asking very high prices, maybe she gets them sometimes, and of course you can ASK anything.
Bob C., you ARE coming to the June 2st Pierce tour in Maryland, correct? I hear Mr. Brown needs a navigator!
Before you go to all the trouble of hydraulic brakes (which will require maintenance that mechanical brakes don’t need), make sure all your brake components are in correct condition.
All linkages are tight and have no wear, brake drums in excellent condition, no oil leaks from the axle, and possibly the most important, you have the CORRECT brake lining material.
I’ve driven a 1911 Buick roadster, the big model, with rear brakes only that were set up by an owner who really knew his stuff. The brakes were great, easy pedal and fast stopping. BUT, everything has to be correct for that to happen.
Although the auction company is in California, one of the cars shows Ohio license plates, and they mention that they’ll reveal auction location only a few days before auction.
Wow, that’s a pretty hefty load for a little Bobcat…..operator definitely knew what he was doing!
Now, the obvious question, who bought the car? Hope they’re a member of the PAS, and if they’re reading this, it really is quite a car! Congrats! We’re just expressing our dismay at the monochrome color scheme!
My father had a friend that used to say, regardless of what doting parents said or thought, most all babies were ugly, red and wrinkled skin and scowling. So, he would walk up and say “Now, THAT’S a BABY!”
Now, THAT’S a PIERCE!
I don’t think anyone doubted he was a member of the Society. The comments were directed toward the request to have him join the Facebook Pierce Arrow group.
I just checked it too, seller should be very happy. I didn’t think it’d go that high…but I gave up guessing long ago!
I’m a proponent of using the original pieces when possible.
We just rebuilt a vacuum tank on a 1927 Dodge Brothers cabriolet. With carb and vacuum tank dry, just a few turns of the engine will get gas to tank and start car.
Vacuum tanks are good systems, they just have to be clean and tight.
Remember that a car with a vacuum tank had maybe a two foot drop to the carb, so you only have about 1 pound pressure at the carb (0.43 pounds per foot of drop).
The heck with celebrity, we’d be honored to have such a dyed-in-the-wool car guy! The real deal….
Curious about the difference, I found the following quote by an English teacher about the question of club versus society:
“I don’t think there’s anything fixed, and there’s nothing to stop you using film club/society in either context, but I think club is more likely for younger people and society sounds more ‘grown-up’. “
Whew, I feel more grown-up already!
Robert and I, and one of our hosts, drove the tour route today.
There will be some interesting stops with great cars to see, pretty back roads, and a great lunch venue.
Come join us! There’s a lot of area for trailer parking at the hotel, so that’s no worry…..
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