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25K is what the buy it now price was … and according to Ebay it was sold for that…

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Bob, thanks for heads up, but I’m not really in the market for another car now….my project list is too long and life is too short!

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I’d bet few people have seen the vacuum cylinder and master cylinder that actuate the trailer brakes. This combination unit is mounted at the front inside of the trailer, underneath a seat and next to the jack. The jack is also internal to the trailer ( that is, inside the skin).

I have no problem keeping it and restoring, but the tow vehicle will need to have a vacuum fitting and control of some kind. Easy on a late Pierce! Thanks Stu for showing me the perfect tow vehicle!

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I’d add that the mid thirties cars, with Stewart Warner mechanical brakes, and the 36-38 vacuum assist brakes, do not need improvement by upgrade…just get the original system working, and it’s more than sufficient. The S-W system does take a little getting used to, as it depends on momentum, and at very slow speed can be a little interesting.

My 1931 has huge brake drums, tool steel, and I think I measured at one time 16 feet (yes, sixteen feet) of brake lining…so adjustment is the key, and my car will lock brakes if needed, so make what you have work…

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OK, thanks, Ed…I’ll get with you on the setup….that’s be great to keep it original….meanwhile, I’ve almost convinced my very understanding wife, who really likes the Travelodge, that we need a 36-38 Pierce to go with it!

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And yes, I realize how ironic the question is after my car brake comments; but at the time of manufacture, Pierce cars had vacuum actuated brakes, too, so vacuum trailer brakes made sense then…….

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Yes, I’m one of the old timers who just don’t get this.

One reason I’ve collected and driven antique cars for over 50 years is to experience what the cars were then, how they acted, how they drove, all their little idiosyncrasies. That’s what makes them special, and each car is a little different.

That character is lost when the car is “improved” with modifications. A properly set up, original, car, can be a pleasure to drive, but it takes some effort to make sure all parts aren’t worn out and everything is adjusted correctly. I once drove a 1911 Buick, rear wheel brakes, and it had the best braking I’ve ever felt on an early car because it was correctly done.

I know, to each his own, but driving a Pierce Arrow with power steering, disc brakes, and air conditioning, would be like living in a remodeled, modernized, Frank Lloyd Wright house….

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Greg, that’s a good point.

I always fuss at my kids, we’ll be on vacation somewhere and they’ll post photos saying where we are and the whole family is there…announcing to the world that we’re not home and the house is empty….

Speaking of the Pierce site on Facebook, a ’36 convertible coupe was pictured on there at a meet in Spain…it’s my old “train wreck” car, hit by a train in the early 1950’s, convertible tub moved to a low mileage club sedan chassis and fenders, in fact the cowl was even from the club sedan, modified to fit the convertible body…beautifully restored now…It was too big a project for me….

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Does anyone know to whom the Derro Silver Arrow sold?

Or, to put it another way, PAS member, museum, private party, or??

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I would never drill holes in the original radiator shell.

This stone guard has two rubber bumpers at the top, and two unusual spring leafs that come up from the bottom.

Interesting discussion, though…thanks!

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I had another, repro, stone guard a while back, but it had very heavy mesh.

This one has the finer mesh as Bill’s picture shows, and actually looks better.

The heavy mesh one made the car look like a replica…

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I might try it for a while, will need to fabricate some brackets to support from crossbar, with rubber bumpers against shell….I don’t want to drill any holes….

As far as telling the price, doesn’t matter, if I go first, my wife will have the “big sale”” and it can go for fair value!”

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Well, my understanding is that four do exist, I think the group discussed this in a previous thread. Three are well known and one is “hidden” in a private collection, as you say. The fifth one was apparently destroyed somewhere along the way…

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Stu knows the story, but I guess I’ll tell the rest of it here, too.

I’d arranged the financing for this car from a guy outside the auction venue, on a corner, Guido I think his name was….

So could get the money, but the vig was a little much and I could never afford to show it after paying each week…so, another dream lost…

Oh well…

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Oh, and by the way, the new owner of the Pierce coupe is also the owner of the Marathon factory building … and owns 4 Marathon cars, too, of which there are only a few more extant…

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I first got on Facebook a number of years ago, to connect for a high school 40th reunion, and then expanded it to see what my five children are doing.

It’s a good venue to keep in touch and share information.

I had to get off of it during the election. If you expand into the political arena on FB, you’ll soon learn that A) you don’t change anyone’s mind nor ideas with your carefully crafted and well thought out dialogue and you’ll get called a lot of nasty names in the process.

Also, try to limit your “friends” to people you really know and care to hear from. It can get a little silly when a few hundred people want to be your “friend”, and you have to weed through them posting every darn random image the Internet has to offer, all the while thinking they’re the most clever person on the planet.

All that said, use common sense, and it’s a great communication resource for us…..

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It was fun! I think I talked too much though…friends and supper were both great…

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My understanding is that all P-A convertible sedan bodies were made by LeBaron, to Pierce specifications, and delivered to the factory “in the white” (in primer) to be finished by Pierce.

The production model convertible sedans are thus bodies built by Lebaron, but not Lebaron custom bodied, if that makes sense.

I do not know if any other production bodies were made outside the PAMCC factory.

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I’d bet Loki wouldn’t pass up a steak…but the most fun is playing fetch with him, first you have to pick up what must be a 6×6 piece of wood, three or so feet long, and see if you can throw it further than 10 feet!!

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I plan to go to the dinner!

I was just on the “field” at Hershey, at the big RV show they have there (although it only covers the Green and Orange car swap meet fields). Felt strange to be walking the asphalt with no rusty car parts around…

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