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George Teebay, my friend, will get back to you later. We are off for the day!

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George Teebay, my friend, will get back to you later. We are off for the day!

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Greg, your longer response warrants a long response. I really appreciate your “Long” responses. Please excuse my whimsey!

I am winding down my real estate portfolio, building a new place for our cars, and learning about our Pierce.

Please keep the information coming!

1. I did not install the electrci pump. It has a switch that also shows a red light on the dash when it is on. I have been using it only for starting, and when out of gas! Planning a spare gas can if I can find one with brass and a PA logo!

2. I will send you pictures of the dash, gas pump and anything else related. I love photography and take tons of pictures. Here belowe is a picture of my dash, taken by a previous seller.

The gas gage in the tank seems to be missing a needle. Perhaps it can be restored or replaced.

The gas tank seems to be smaller than my later cars. Guessing it is 10-12 gallons. This indicates that Pierce-Arrow people MUST have always liked people because we must have to stop often for gas!

At 6-7mpg, computes about a range of 60 or 70 miles. Carry a gas can?

Apparently, my car does have a pressurized fuel system. The seller admonished me not to fill it up because it would only have a too small air volume and could over-pressurize the system. What should I do?

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Richard Anderson, an especially two very helpful information. You certainly give the best thanks!

1. Your info on Paul Murray. I have his info and plan to call him today. Our car is an unusual car in an unusual marque. He knows our car personally!

2. Your info about “spreading” the clutch and brake pedals so I can get my foot (size 11.5) between! My size shows yeti-like footprints.

Could this car made for short people with tiny feet, powerful legs and huge arms? Right hand on the steering wheel and right hand on the e-brake?

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“Congratulations and a big Welcome to the Pierce-Arrow Society. The best cars, the best members, and the best club. I’m glad you followed through after our phone conversation.

You’ve already been put in touch with a number of contacts locally and above to help you enjoy your new vehicle. Another person further East that I’d recommend if you ever need professional assistance would be Peter Fawcett near Toronto.

If you didn’t receive a 2017 roster yet, let me know and I’ll send you one.

You should attend the upcoming Winter Mini-meet in Pine Mountain, GA the beginning of March. The info is on the website. I hope to meet you there!

Dave Stevens”

I did follow up with Peter Fawcett. He was courteous and helpful. I am hoping he can find a rear FR Wood bumper for my car. He thinks he has one, “somewhere”

I would like a 2017 roster.

I also have been in touch with Rick Horne, George Teebay, suggested I call Rick. He lives about 60 miles south of our home. Rick invited me to the Mini Meet and my wife and I are going to the mini-meet. Another PAS guy is also going and hoping that we may be able to meet at the Atlanta Airport and show him our collection.

I am overwhelmed by the warm and kind response from PAS members. Truly great people with great cars. A grand symbiosis. As you can tell that I like people!!

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William Scorah, Having researched my serial number, 14722, it appears it was made in 1916. Regional HCCA clubs have made me very welcome in their groups and tours. They say that the only possible question could be in National Sanctioned HCCA events. But might even be accepted there since I have an unusual body, the car, I mean. Excuse the whimsical digression.

I saw the article in coachbuilt.com. Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I was also able to learn about other coach built cars we have, Brewster, Durham, and Willoughby. However, a minor caveat that since another coachbuilt guru told me in private message that coachbuilt has a few errors that they should respond to errata in their articles.

But they seem to be the best source on the internet for coach built information.

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William, “I use Zildjian cymbal polish which works well on both nickel and brass.”

I did some research because this is a great idea! One of the problems in the past is that Brasso and some others leave a white residue in any cracks. A musician had also suggested that Zildjian cymbal polish works great on his cymbals and it seems to leave a protective coating. But it can remove the painted emblems Zildjian symbols from the cymbals. Hmm has a nice sound, “symbols from the cymbals”

I have a lot of brass next to paint. Like the hood hinges.

William, does the Zildjian polish affect the paint? And does it dry clear?

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Made my first drive! Whew! Went through the starting procedure, and it burst into life and a quiet happy (fast) idle, a bit too much hand throttle. Leaned out the mixture, advanced the spark. Eased into 1st gear. Foot slipped off the clutch pedal and it surprisingly jumped forward. throttle a little high.

Quick reflexes. And back on the clutch. Handbrake. Stopped good enough, but scared me. Bit of getting the hang of reverse. Yeah PUSH DOWN and all the way forward. Smooth.

Major glitch was about the pedals with the throttle between the brake and clutch. Too easy to hit the throttle when hitting the brakes. Especially having had some tips about driving, several people said to really use the emergency brake. It does work better than the foot brake.

I have a good checklist from PAS friends and I use it carefully.

Loaded the wife and off for adventure. The seller had drained the tank to be sure the gas was good, put in 5 gallons ethanol free. That should last a while and we headed off to Stone Mountain Park. About ten miles of very good paved roads and a 25mph speed limit.

Tricky getting used to right-hand drive. The pedals coordinated. At first, using mostly the throttle on the steering column and the handbrake. Did well. Very few traffic.

Enjoying the cool breeze. A handful of Park visitors, mostly hanging open mouths, poking each other shoulders and pointing at us as we drove by.

This car is a parade on its own!

Decided to go home. OUt of the Park, the chuff-sound signaling we are out of gas! We parked beside the road like a beached steamboat. Wife decided to relax in the back seat as I trudged about 1/2 mile to a gas station, borrowed a five gallon can, trudged back and added the gas.

Back in the car, grateful it has an electric fuel pump. Let it do its magic bringing the gas from the tank to the carb. Feeling like an old hand, using my foot to press the priming button a few time, and the giant six, sprang to life, and we were off to our home.

Took a jaunt through Stone Mountain Village. A friend ran across the street to have a better look and talk. I went bumfuzzled a minute, brake peddles, the handbrake at the same time, de-clutched and as my foot descended on the brake pedal and the engine roared when I accidentally hit the throttle pedal.

My friend backed up suddenly. I got everything under control with no mishaps. He admired and we drove home. A bit tired and ragged keeping all the process in my mind to be sure the Pierce and I were synchronized.

The car has some quirks, but we are getting to know each other. Fortunately, I have some experience with older cars, 1920 Cadillac, a handful of Model Ts, 1933 Packard, So it was not a totally new experience.

Bottom line is that we had a blast! Love this Pierce!

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David, The body is by F.R. Wood & Son. The only Pierce Arrow is the front fenders. The frame and running gear is PA. The entire body is more “sporting” than a factory body of 1916. I am not sure when it was ‘bodied’. May have been born that way or redone later.

It does work. I am not yet a knowledgeable PA person, just taking baby steps. Please let me know with any help.

I thought I had tied most carefully to the felloes on the wheels, trying to avoid the spokes, however will ties to the axles in the future, thanks, David

I m planning a new top and side curtains, using a darker material. The tires are in excellent condition, but would like to replace with Blackwall tires. We did reconfigure the spare to the rear and give a cleaner line IMHO.

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Thank you Richard. I have his contact information from the Roster. Will call him today.

I have a checklist from Greg Long (above) and another checklist from the Seller, Jeff Chattin. Yesterday, I just brought it home from Jeff. It hs been snowing in Atlanta and did not want to carry it in poor weather.

My enclosed trailer was stuck in the mud from melted snow, but the weather was sparkling clear. BTW my wife, Anne, has a passion for these cars as well as me.

Now, I can actually get my hands on it!!

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Wow! Thanks for all the help. Especially Greg Long and a good place for me to start.

Will also will contact Paul Murray, and seek his advice.

John Crowell, “encountered plenty of problems on the

Pebble Beach Motoring Classic. It will need some mechanical work.’ Has me concerned. Also that it was bodied at a later date. Any more info would be greatly appreciated.

Dave Stevens, delightful chat and I have been in phone conversation with Peter Fawcett. Will be looking to him for parts and advice, Apparently, his father was very a fan of the 48B. Peter seems following that tradition.

I have talked with Rick Horne and his wife Liz and he are sponsoring the Winter Mini-Meet in Calaway Gardens. Rick lives about 60 miles south of me.

My car was bought in 2015 by Jeff Chattin who lives in Canton Georgia. He seems to know a lot about Pierce cars and has a great knowledge in brass cars. He currently drives a 1909 Lozier Briarcliff; a 1909 Kissel Kar speedster; and a few others. I took my 1920 Cadillac to him today to have his mechanic work on the starter-generator.

I enjoy networking with people, especially in the early cars.

I have a collection of other cars spanning from 1914 to 1960 in my warehouse in Atlanta. I am building a display barn in Stone Mountain Georgia.

I am very new about Pierce, mostly I have worked on Cadillac, Packard, Auburn and Lincoln Willoughby. I particularly like customs, like FR Wood, Brewster, Willoughby and other coachbuilt cars.

I Please solicit any more information about my Pierce. It is unusual and to me I like the low, rakish and sporty look. But I like all well-made cars!

I somehow missed the box below so I could get responses by email. This is why I was a while in responding to you. I was wondering why I was not hearing from you all and found seven responses! I am retired and spend my time driving classics and networking on the internet!

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