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Luke, the set up you have is NOT sage when using snap rings……….the amount of stored energy in the tire will blow past the belts like rubber bands. I don’t even use a cage……….I have a 100 foot Lon air hose with a locking air chuck on the end. I attatch it to the valve stem, and open the air valve on my compressor line slowly, until the tire comes up to pressure. I do this in the bright sunlight, to keep the tire soft and flexible. After the tire and ring hold 45 pounds for an hour or two, I bleed the air down to 25 pounds, inspect the ring at a distance, then get closer one it appears safe. I have seen two snap rings file……..and rest assured, each day as the rings get older, rechromed, and removed and installed mutiple times, they are not getting safer. Here is a NEW rim, new snap ring, and new tire all made by one of the best companies……and with 100 miles……..failure.

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Ryan…….too many people just jump in and learn the hard way. You were wise to contact the people here……everyone is interested in having new members and car owners avoid all the hard lessons we got over the years. While people here may have different opinions and ways of doing things, all of them have your best interests in mind when offering help. I think you have a very nice car, much better than many people start with. It’s a very good year for driving…..my favorite for an eight. Take your time, do thing right, and in a short order you will be going down the road without any issues. Greg L and a John S are good friends of mine, for more years than any of us want to admit. Be sure to bring you family to the events, it’s a great way for you to have quality time with them. All the best, Ed

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Before you buy tires, post what brands you are considering and if white or black wall. It is one of the most expensive things you can do to your car. It’s best to get as much feedback as you can before you spend your money.

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Ryan, get on the horn right away and buy a few tubes for the tires. If you want to drive it, you need to be prepared for flats, and cars that sit for long periods of time often have tube issues. I would carry two at the minimum. As for everything else, if you make it to the meet with the car, you will have a bunch of helpful people showing you the ropes of owning a Pierce Arrow. Welcome to the club and our “Pierce Arrow family”!

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Fantastic news……..glad you got the car. As it should be, a family car belongs with the younger generations. Hope to see you and the car at the meet. FYI, a club member recently started parting out an identical car, so if you need any parts or spares, you should inquire right away. All my best, Ed

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That was MORE than a fair offer, and I expect if it were run again somewhere it wouldn’t do as well. You first sale at an auction is ALWAYS you best chance to sell. Maybe the family will see clear to getting him the car at a fair number. The auction price would have netted the family 22k.

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Hope he gets it. He did say he would try a few weeks ago. Looks like a car with sorting could be a good driver.

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It was chromed. They mar and scratch very quickly. They are very difficult to keep “perfect” even on a 100 point car.

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David Coco IS the king of eBay.

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The car is in California for a show three days before the PAS meet, so we will bring it to the 2020 show. It’s in the family of Lombardo Blue, but not quite such a flat or Matt color. Same shade, just a bit more pop. Looking forward to seeing everyone in two weeks. All my best, Ed

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Yes Bob, having a neat is very important when working on the late series brake system, as having a nauga if you are going to replace your interior. Skinning a nauga is a lost art. Seems the auto select is punching in words when I don’t realize it. I don’t always type with my glasses on either, add the fact we can’t edit our posts, and the error stays up for life……….

And while typing this short tome, the dam thing used three incorrect words……but I managed to read it before posting!

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No worries!

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The 1247 Series fenders and parking light brackets are different than the shorter wheelbase cars…….different shape and bigger wheel wells. The price for the car is just about correct market retail. It’s lots of car, rare and unusual, and zi am sure it will find a home. I have had a bunch of people call and email me on the car.

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LOL…….Tony, you know our shop motto………”Drive it like you stole it!”👍

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It’s a great car and an old friend from my early teen years going to car shows in New England. Only thing wrong with it is I don’t own it.

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It’s interesting how when PAS people see a car without fender lamps, they look upon the car differently. Personally, I wouldn’t own a Pierce without them. Many others feel the exact opposite………but they tend to drive one of the other “Three P’s”. Having been fortunate to have extensively driven most of the “great makes” for many miles over different conditions, I can honestly say my very high opinion of Pierce Arrow motor cars has not changed. A properly sorted and tuned Piece Arrow is a fantastic car by anyone’s definition. I have only been overtaken under protest by a Duesenberg Model J being driven by a very enthusiastic gentleman pounding the hell out of his car………as I was doing to my Pierce! Please be assured, I upheld the honor of our famous marque. Shortly after the performance contest, the J gave up the ghost and went home on a trailer…….the mighty Pierce twelve motored happily on. For years after, the driver of the J, Phill Bray would always greet me as the young man from Massachusetts with the fastest flathead on earth……..a compliment I still enjoy to this day. As for validation, just ask Tony Costa how the 1602 drives………I think the exact term he used was “flying”.

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The “New York” style headlights is just urban legend. I have a dozen photographs from the 30’s with cars that have New York plates on them and fender lights. The rumor is often mentioned but has never been substantiated.

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All the new dye has a shorter life than the old stuff…………..I have nine cars that use it, and they fade at different rates in different gauges in each car…….go figure…..

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The car had a a 1959 plate on it, and it looks like it was on the car from day one. I agree that the one Greg posted is the normal one I would expect to see……….but the construction of the bracket and fabrication is top notch. Interesting to see things that were done in the era. The entire thing was gas welded.

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Sedan body number 400…….so I think its late, maybe very late…….could be the reason?

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