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In cleaning some of the parts of the torque arm mount I found stamped on one of the washers the name “Spicer”, the patent number 1580747, and the date April 1937.

When I looked it up the patent was for a type of flex joint which used fabric reinforced rubber discs. The washer fits between the layers and has a round lip on the outer edge to grip the flexible members.

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Mine was pushing down some; I put a jack under the arm as I removed the bolts, just in case, but it was not a lot of force. The flex was distorted downward, though. The Car was sitting on the wheels but with no engine and trans aboard.

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Greg, one more question: do you know about where the center holes for the torque arm should be, vertically? I am trying to flatten my old flex mount out to get a measurement and the holes are definitely not centered between the mount holes on the top and bottom end. I think just getting them about right will be close enough.

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If it’s not original, I don’t mind removing it although someone did a quality job on it.

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Hi, Greg, I have some of the same material; thanks for the offer, though, you are always ready and willing to help and that is an enormous addition to the joys of the Pierce-Arrow Society!

Alas! I cannot make it to Branson because of another commitment that weekend; however I was at Jim Cox’s shop last week to pick up my ’31 transmission and he has some real beauties to show you all. You will have a great time I am sure!

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This post has helped me, so thanks for taking the time to share.

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Thanks, Peter, for your explanation. I did not know this device on my Series 80 is a valve, not a pump. Now I know how to use it effectively.

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I have the drive shaft out of my ‘31 Series 43 now. The joints have a sort of cup-and-ball cover arrangement, akin to the jointbon the front or transmission end of the Straight-Eight Buiicks. The name “Spicer” is stamped into the cover. I do not know haw to get these apart but I would really like to clean them

Up. There is a modern Alemite or zerk fitting on one end and the (presumably original) pin-type fitting on the other. The joints themselves seem to flex normally and feel good.

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I have the parts list for my ’31 but there are no illustrations, which would really be helpful.

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I saw myself a Series 80 reproduction aluminum head which had only one of the coolant holes drilled; overheating was the symptom which led to this discovery. It was from a reputable supplier and was installed by a reputable rebuilder.

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It’s entirely possible the valve stem found its way into the tire accidentally during the assembly process; not so the towel. Perhaps someone was attempting to create an oil filter? It seems hardly an accident it was spread out.

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I checked out this example and copied the photos from Ebay as it is the exact configuration of my series 43, rear-mount spare, etc. and it may be the same color my car was originally. My car does not have the visor.

I did not see the typical heater coolant connections so it may be disconnected from years past but I like the heater.

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Perfect for someone who needs a place to put a lot of money…

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You are correct; the docs clearly state 1923. A fascinating part of the past.

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The old spring-lube tools I have seen, have a wedge which is forced between the leaves from the side and which is drilled to allow injection of the lubricant.

I have considered cleaning and lubricating my cars’ springs, then wrapping them with canvas and wide Gorilla tape. It is black, flexible and should be reasonably durable considering the typical gentle use of a collector car. If it doesn’t work out, it is easily removable and on to Plan B.

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If the car is jacked up with the axle hanging the leaves are easier to pry apart to lubricate.

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Bob, that appears to be the same location as the two firewall openings in my ’31. I suppose the location of the openings depends on the design of the heater; my car’s firewall has one opening between the two which appear to be “factory original””; I think perhaps the extra hole had to be made to accommodate the heater used. I will try to find a heater that will fit.”

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Recommend a quick search of Trussed Concrete Steel Co. Kahn System in Wikipedia. There is a pic of the Packard plant but some references to get you started. Sometimes the most simple search will reveal just what you need. Good luck!

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