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David,
How many mats are spoken for now? Please be sure I am on the list.Yes,all of the 1929 cars came from the factory with the rubber floor mat.Carpet was used by restorers because the old natural rubber deteriorated.How much of a deposit will you want and when?
With my 1915 Model C-3 I have always run the car with a mixture of regular gasoline and Pennzoil two cycle oil in a mixture of 100 to one so there is a small amount of oil in the gasoline.The Series 3’s and earlier do not have the mixture control on the steering column as do the Series 4’s.I would find a source for straight regular gas with no ethanol.Some more rural gas stations may have it for tractors and farm machinery.Gasoline in the early days was more oily.My car has a nice tan deposit on the exhaust pipe and a friend remarked my car seems to run very clean.I have the belly pan which helps to hold heat in and the carburetor is heated by the car’s cooling system all making for good combustion.Too much oil in the gas and your Pierce Arrow will smoke like a Trabant.
Stewart Warner Power Brakes would post date the era of these RHD Pierce Arrows.You would want to use a good woven lining and be sure the contact of the lining to the drum is uniform.Moulded linings came in later.If your linings are worn or soaked with oil,they car will have stopping problems.You might want to check with a very good clutch and brake shop in your area on a good lining material but you need to make sure the shoes have proper contact to the drum.Besides my car I have driven other RHD Pierce Arrows plus other 2 wheel brake cars going back to 1906 and never had a problem stopping.
This is interesting as I found the brakes on my C-3 to be just fine.The linings are a woven lining put on shortly after I got the car.The internal shoes are the foot brake and the external shoes are the hand brake as original.I found the brakes on this very early Pierce Arrow to be better than some more way modern cars with hydraulic brakes.Again though the C-3 has very low mileage.I driven alot in Model T Fords and never had a problem in stopping.It is important that the brake linings have proper contact with the drums.I have been told that on these right hand drive Pierce Arrows that it is a good idea to to use both the hand brake and foot brake to stop the car.
David,
How many so far want a mat? It is interesting that the 1930 and 1931 parts books were so less detailed unless it was meant that all three years were meant to be used together.Being also into Packards,there was a master parts book for the 7th,8th and 9th Series Packards of 1930-1931-1932.There was a similar master parts book for the 1923 through 1929 models and 1933 through 1936 models.
Again I believe all had a front rubber mat.The parts book just gave one number for the mat.Some custom bodies could have been different.My copy of the 1930 parts book is a much smaller book than that for the 1929’s and there is no listing for a mat that I could find.I am just very thankful that the proper front floormat will become available.
As I recall the front floormat is shown in the very detailed 1929 133-143 parts book under its own part number and I do not recall a parts book listing for a different mat for closed cars.Not long after I got my Roadster I did write Otto Klausmeyer about the mats as I had seen old photos of the cars with rubber mats.I do recall his mentioning carpet was a dealer option and I believe this letter made into the PAS service bulletins.My car got a new interior when in Arthur Rippey’s collection in Denver.Even though the car has only 24000 miles and was stored inside in a mountain village for decades,the natural rubber used in the matting would break down and when removed would just crumble.It is my opinion all of the 1929’s came from the factory with the rubber mat in front and many cars when redone got carpet in front because there was no attractive alternative.
David,
I enlarged your photo and the shape and size looked the same as the floor area in my 1929.Since there seems to be no question of the mats fitting 1929-1930-1931,I will definitely want one.How many people want one and when do you want a deposit? It might be wise to make a few extras.Can this firm that will do the mats do other parts made of rubber.I would like to see if the correct horn bulbs for the Series 1 through Series 5 Pierce Arrows could be reproduced.These are the Pierce Arrows that had the Tally O bulb horns.
David,
I might also try to do some measurements just to be sure as well as use the template.Have other 1929 owners contacted you?
David,
I will double check your template on my 1929 Roadster this weekend and get back to you this next week.My thoughts are they are very close but let me check.It is a bit of a squeeze due to some shelves but will do my best.At this point I feel I will want one of the new ones.
The later Series 133-143 cars were equipped with a mesh type filter possibly made by Air Maze.My September 1929 133 Roadster is so equipped.The velocity stack was on the early cars.
The correct for cushioning the lens that goes into the well of the lamp door is a round cork gasket which should be level with the lens opening then the lens is held in place with sis clips as i recall. You do not want too much pressure on the lens edge and breaking it.The 1929 Pierce Arrow headlamp lenses are very hard to find.If your car has the resistance dimming system with single filament bulbs you will need the McKeelite lens.If the car has the shallow reflectors with twin filament bulbs you will need the Twolite lens.
The car in the photo is right hand drive so it would have to be a pre 1921 chassis.One can see the quadrant below the steering wheel when the photo is enlarged.DuPont,Cunningham,the Springfield Rolls-Royce and some Locomobiles still had drum headlamps in 1929.
I would suspect then the car was updated about 1923-1924.
It is quite possible this is an updated body on an older Pierce Arrow.The wheels appear to be 25 inch Firestone rims.It was rather common in those days to update an older expensive car with new coachwork and a more current tire rim size.
This car is pictured in one of the more recent Pierce Arrow books and I believe it is the car owned by the silent screen star Richard Dix.It is a RHD Pierce Arrow.
Yesterday May 12th was the 105th anniversary of the fender headlamp patent which was May 12,1914.
That is a good price for the B-4 given the incorrect body but it is a nice chassis
and a correct body could be made as I believe castings are available.At the time the car was done new body castings were not available so the car was restored to be enjoyed.
Paul,
If you can do an online search of previous “Arrow”” that issue should surface.I can try to look here but I believe it was the latter 1990’s.Shipping from England would have been risky with the U-Boats patrolling the ocean.I would suspect they went from the US to some safe port.The US was neutral in late 1915.”
Paul,
The car that may be the Kerensky car is #36048 as this number was in the range of numbers on cars shipped to Russia published in the “Arrow” in the 1990’s.I had all the trucks listed too that went there also.This car when they got it was the front part of the frame engine and gearbox and a bunch of loose parts as it had been cut down in the 20’s to build a tractor.the number 36048 was on the engine plate.The number 35146 was on the Colorado frame and had the rear axle,springs,front axle and other parts so with what they had ad these parts were able to be close to a complete chassis.The had enough parts left so they made a copy of the Colorado frame and were able to build up a second car.Oivind has photos of 36048 before it was cut down and it has unusual bracket headlamps and they could have been of Russian manufacture or perhaps French manufacture.It appears the brightwork was painted giving the car military look.
