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This one is back on Ebay, I sure wish someone would buy it as it’s been for sale for a while. The seller should take a modest profit and move on…

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1931-Pierce-Arrow-8-43-Club-Sedan/392005464817?hash=item5b4558b2f1:g:bsQAAOSww85aWTsg&vxp=mtr

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Craig, I did not catch that, the title does say “bundle”, so maybe it is for all five. Being simplistic, five cars at $25K each, maybe not too far off on the first three, but the two later cars aren’t in that ballpark. The three prewar cars all look like they need a lot of work., though…..

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The picture is actually two batteries wired in parallel, to give same voltage but double the amperage.

Wired in series, a plus terminal on one battery to the minus terminal on the other, you’d get double the voltage at the same amperage.

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I don’t think shipping is awful, I’ve shipped a couple of cars that I’ve sold overseas, and I think it can be done for $3K-5K

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I have a few thoughts.

First, if you’re going to put a patch it, I would think you’d cut a new piece of metal to the shape of the hole, then if JB Weld is an option, use that to secure the new piece. One thing about JB is that the metal needs to be super clean so it adheres, so you’d have to really put the cleaning power to the edge of the hole. Wire brush or otherwise, best would be bead blast but that’s not possible on the car.

The other issue is you have cracks radiating out from the hole, and these will continue to grow. At minimum, drill a small hole at the end of each crack, and fill it with JB or something else. This will at least stop the crack from growing.

I’m sure there are other’s who will chime in who’ve had more experience with this. There are also skilled craftsman out there who could heat this up and put in a welded patch, but then you have other issues.

If I were you I’d also start looking for another manifold, if this one has such a large issue at that spot, you can figure that it may have other issues, too, that just aren’t visible at this time.

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…and the second one is a Model 43 phaeton, what’s not to like?

http://www.prewarcar.com/188264-pierce-arrow-model-43-sport-phaeton-1931

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That dealer information is straight from an original 1929 factory document, by the way, so it’s not conjecture….

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According to my 1929 list of Pierce Arrow dealers, in Oklahoma at the time was:

Tulsa- Wilson Motor Co. 230 E. 15th Street

Okmulgee- Earles Wright Motor Co.

Holdenville- S.E. WEst

Miami- Schorers Motor Co.

Muskogee – R.P. White

That’s it for Oklahoma in 1929….

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I should have said the Ken/Ellie/David Pierce Detective Service!

Virginia has YOM, Year of Manufacture, plate laws too, and most years were pairs, which are required for YOM. The prices of nice Virginia license plate pairs has risen accordingly.

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David’s Pierce Detective Service at your beck and call!

Interesting that it was a regular license plate, not a vintage or antique plate. Almost makes one wonder if it was temporarily put on the car to transport, and is actually registered to a newer car.

Hope your search is fruitful, or Pierceful…..

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Greg, if you decide to go the blindfold and dart decision method, I know of people who’d want you to keep your blindfold on as they go see where the dart landed, or should have landed!

I’ve sat down a few times with my wife, and said OK, which ones should we sell. Well, we can’t sell that one, and we won’t sell that one, and this one has great memories, and we always wanted that one….in the end, there’s still no car on the “sell” list.

Although, come to think of it, I do have a 1911 Hupmobile that is going to be sold, as I have a 1910 so don’t need a duplicate. Hmmmm, or do I?

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Anyone have a contact at the California DMV or the State Police?

License number on car at the auction was California 2LDJ342.

From the website photos looks like a very nice car.

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I think any passion is a curse at some point in life.

I love the cars, and value the friends that I have all over the United States and elsewhere BECAUSE of the shared love of cars.

Funny you should bring it up, as a friend of mine who is similarly cursed was just discussing this with me this morning. As much as one enjoys having, working on, and driving the old cars, at some point in life they start to become a burden. I’ve owned over 200 cars in my life, a dozen or so of those Pierce Arrows. I’m down to about 10 cars now, and darned if I can keep up with them, even being retired. There always seems to be 2 or 3 of them with fatal flaws. Right now I’m dealing with a cracked block (due to ’38 Packard pour metallurgy), a stripped camshaft gear (on a car that has camshaft bearing cast in place), and a bad water pump (an easy fix, except on a Cord 812).

All that weighs heavy on me, in addition to other projects ongoing.

Don’t get me wrong, I love the cars, and pride of ownership runs deep, but at some point worry about maintenance can overtake the pride.

I sometimes think I’ll sell everything but my beloved Pierce phaeton. However, my whole life I’ve had a lot of cars, and having just one seems wrong somehow…..

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AC, you mentioned the ’38 convertible, I had a chance (as many people did) to buy that car for $25K in its unrestored form…and for some silly reason passed. To your point, a lot was spent on it’s restoration to current show quality. It premiered in restored form at the 2001 Buffalo meet, beautiful car, if I remember correctly it had some overheating problem that I’m sure got fixed. Ah, the ones that got away…

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Wow, thanks Ed! Uh, just checked my bank account, I’m a little short….

Let me put it this way, if the forty five million represented the distance from my house in Virginia to the West coast, my bank account gets me almost out of my town…

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That’s a great car. Different body of course, but the ’33 LeBaron discussed is almost a bargain by comparison. Peter, you bring up an interesting point, about the most expensive motor car you’ve either driven or ridden in…

My answer to such a question would be easy, I was able to have a ride in the Bugatti Royale Berline de Voyage when Tom Monaghan owned it.

Last I heard the Royale’s were up into eight figures, if one could be bought.

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Brian, no details needed, just make sure that if the new owner isn’t in the PAS have them join! Glad you’re on your way to finding a good home for it….

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Brian, now I’m curious, since I got involved in this! When you said it’s “holding up sale”, does that mean you have a live buyer on the line, or that you need the tag in place to be able to transfer paperwork when someone buys it? just curious…

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That original Pierce little round battery is probably dead!

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Brian, I have an extra one if you need it, contact me at [email protected]

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