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I would think you could take a tan Haartz cloth and put some dye color to it. Again, if you’re looking to do this, ask the question of Eric, he’s very helpful to old car guys, and he can tell you what’s possible.
If you’re talking the possibility of dyeing Haartz cloth, you need to be asking Eric Haartz the question. If you email me I’ll give you his direct email address.
I have to tell you, Richard, that this is a very unusual request. It makes it sound like you’re doing something wild with that ’29 that may please you (which is fine), but make a lot of other people comment negatively.
I know, I know, it’s your car and you can do what you want, but if you show up with a yellow car and yellow top, or some other circus look, expect criticism.
As far as period correct, there were black and light and dark tan tops available, with a variety of linings (black, tan, whipcord, etc.). There were also a few colors available, although not many. I have some original topping samples from the 20’s, from L.C. Chase and Company, and of the 30+ samples, one is a dark red, one is a dark green, one a tan, and ALL the rest are black. They do have, however, a lot of different color backings.
Yes, if that had happened the step-down would have been a definite step-up! (Just kidding, Hudson folks, I know from my short stint as a member of the Hudson club that step-downs are prized, I have a 1910 Hudson project that I’ve had for sale so joined for a year).
It’s fun thinking about what-ifs, and, looking back, it sure seems that there should have been some way to keep that factory busy in 1938.
It’s interesting looking through Pierce ads that a lot of them utilized cars in front of large gates or doors or arches. There must be some psychological reason for that, large gates mean high society?
Figured your picture was distorted by close camera, it’s very colorful, just can’t seem to find an ad to attach it to!
I can’t find that particular picture in an ad, if it wasn’t an ad it sure looks like a rendering that would have been considered for one. Note the similarity in coloring and style to the attached ad. Is it signed?
Beautiful wheel….I wouldn’t even want to know the cost, wow….they need blackwall tires though!
I like it! I can now cross off “Be a muse”” from my bucket list…thanks….”
Bob is correct. I think the condensed version of the thread about this car is “keep looking””…..”
From what I’ve heard, a high alcohol content liquor will keep for a long, long time, as long as it’s stored in a decent manner (and from condition of this bottle it appears to have been kept well). The main hazard is evaporation from a bad seal on the stopper or cap. That’s a great looking bottle, and aside from drinkability, bet there are liquor collectors out there who’d love to have the bottle for the graphics. There’s someone out there who collects everything, you know, I have a Pierce Arrow bagged vacuum cleaner, and there are a LOT of people who collect older vacuum cleaners I found out….
Peerless probably produced a plethora…to perpetuate personification of pertinent or prevalent production is pervasive, but preposterous….
As to your question about a wine expert, I’m not one, but I’d bet that bottle was good until about 1940, and then, without proper storage (orientation and temperature), it went downhill, and it’s not drinkable now. I’d leave it as is and admire the fact it survived, rather than break the seal and have just an old bottle..
When phones first had the capability to have text written, the keys were uber-small…you could add a tag line to your messages in the company I worked for, and so I added “Thumbs are big, keys are small, forgive mistakes, one and all”…..and pretty soon a LOT of people in the company used the same tag line!
Now we have auto correct, witch wee awl no is grate, as it nose watt wee whish two say…..
Bob, you need this car, just so I can ride in it! It is a very handsome automobile, very elegant…..
Wow, what a great piece of history! That vineyard well predates 1929….
http://www.valkyrieselections.com/webmedia/Champagne%20Prieur%20Brut%20Technical%20Sheet.pdf
Yes, Paul, very interesting take on the situation. We all know the old cliché that timing is everything, and in the situation of the PAMCC, timing was oh so slightly off. A mere three years of hanging on, get into the war years for WWII (a bad time for people, but a great time for a united country and for manufacturing),and we’d be collecting Pierce Arrows that aren’t on the Classic Car Club of America list. Yes, Studebaker owned for a while, and then there was more turmoil in the ranks, but there was a basic driving force to produce such a quality car and in the midst of the depression. No need to go further, some company’s figured out a way to survive, PAMCC didn’t, died.
Nice card! Merry Christmas to all, and to all a good drive!
I’m trying to at least use the best educated guess for years of my Pierce bikes, for the 2016 roster. I’ve limited my Pierce bike purchases with two criteria. One, the bike has to have a Buffalo head badge. Two, the head badge needs to be attached with what appear to be original rivets (I know anything can be faked), and I’ve passed up some bikes due to head badges attached with screws.
Thanks to Paul, I’ll date the above first discussed bike as a 1912.
The lady’s bike pictured has the “smooth border” head badge, as does another, identical, lady’s bike I have, the last year that was used was 1897, and that’s how I’ll date those two.
I have a shaft drive, serial number appears to be 94192 (the “1” is right on a seam and is hard to see). Shaft drive first appeared on a Pierce in 1900, and the flowery border head badge with Geo. N. Pierce Co. was thru 1906, so I’m going to split the difference and call this a 1904.
I have a “special racer”, can’t find a serial number (as is true on 3 of the 5 bikes I have), but it too has the Geo. N. Pierce flowery head badge, so am going to call that a 1906.
I urge all bicycle owners to try their best to put a date on their bikes, using Paul Jacobs’ charts and drawings.
Very well done, thanks for sharing. Life is full of “what ifs”, and of course with Pierce it’s “what if they could have held on three more years”, then the PAMCC would have been into wartime production, and the company’s history may very well have followed something similar to Packard’s history.
A gray leather interior goes great with that color, a few Cords were done that way, and if I ever reworked my Cord phaeton that’s the color scheme I’d use…
You might contact Auburn Cord Parts in Wellington Kansas, they should have the paint code. The Geneva Blue on a Cord was actually a rare factory color.
