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Dave……..will the check clear?
It’s a decent car, I inspected it several years ago. It will make a great driver after it’s restored.
There was a fire at the bicycle factory in 1906 that shut down production for a time.
I have seen photos of cycle displays at state fairs and other assorted public events. I haven’t seen any factory photos marked as being from the Pierce Cycle factory.
There are lots of photos on line. You need to hook up with a Pierce bicycle expert. That have quite large collections of photos and catalogs, but they like to trade………..ðŸ‘
Randy, the eights and twelves used chrome acorn nuts, or studs, I don’t know what the series 80 or 81 cars used off the top of my head………Ed
I have seen tags like yours on several different trailers. As it says on the tag, do not remove under penalty of law…….your in BIG trouble now! Ed
Be sure your new nuts won’t bottom out on the stud, causing a false torque reading and head gasket issues. It’s a common problem with cheap acorn style nuts not to be properly machined deep enough. As Greg said…….inspection, inspection, inspection…….it’s the crazy little details that will jump up and bite you. I have used the timesert often when I had my modern repair garage, probably twenty five times, and never had a problem or failure. Good luck, Ed
Can you post a sample of the red? I have seen about half a dozen trailers, all with the “original” material, and they have been all the same. I have not seen the green or red, though I am sure they would have accommodated what ever anyone wanted on a special order. Surprisingly, the interiors varied more than one would expect. All the original cushions I have seen used the same green material to cover the cushions. Ed
There’s nothing on the market that’s even close to what the factory used. You have to find something that is tasteful and appropriate. What was in there originally was very dark. Even if it were available today I would not use it. Ed
Retro is the Hershey of Europe. More of a high end type event. Lots of stuff to fill up your man cave. It’s a must do if at all possible.
Yes, finding parts is difficult. Making gears is possible but very problematic. High failure rates. Will you have the car in Saint Louis?
I don’t recognize your car. Do you have any history on it? Usually the cars have been in the club sometime in the past. Do you know who the previous owners were? I like it with the rear mounted spare. It’s possible to make a new single gear, but if the cluster shaft has any damage on it, you’re only buying time.
They are great cars, yours looks great. You can probably buy a used transmission for less money than making a gear.
To add a bit to the discussion of jump seats, any jump seat facing sideways was for the “staff”” aka the help. So I was told by an elderly gentleman in the late 70’s who’s family purchased the 37 Packard twelve formal sedan(close coupled) with no devider. His father has his secretary take shorthand on the drive into work.”
I don’t agree with the Berline definition. Factory literature refers to upholstery and devider window options only as Enclosed Drive Limousine, and as far as I have ever seen, a Berline is a “club sedan” with a devider. Exclusively chauffeur driven cars have a leather headliner in the front, cars occasionally owner driven in Limo configuration had the lighter matching headliner material running from front to rear, per factory literature published by Pierce Arrow. See 1930 & 1931 custom catalogs, along with the non factory bodied literature given out at auto shows. Ed
Most of us have been collecting pre war car for so long we forget that it can be confusing to new members. Also, different car companies called the same body styles different names. Example, a Pierce Arrow two door car with a rear seat is a club brougham, Cadillac called it a Town Coupe, some call it a Victoria, and Studebaker called it a Saint Regis. All the same body style and number of seats.
Thus to long time collectors 5 & 7 passenger cars as well as limos are just called sedans. They are the most common body type, and the least expensive and deseriable configurations. Personally I like closed cars in general, and have no issues with a limo, and have owned several. Only drawback to a seven passenger or limo,is most often the seat is not adjustable and tall or large people can’t fit behind the whee.
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My 1936 V-12 club sedan. Notice short wheelbase, thus small doors, two side windows, blind quarter, big trunk
Maybe it best to explain body styles this way.
5 & 7 passenger sedan, as well as limo are all the same she’ll, looking from the side you see a six window car not counting vent windows. Thus each door has a roll down window, then next to the rear seat another window is present. A much longer body or “green house”. On Pierce cars the doors can vary in with, to adjust for chassis length. Sometimes a car is converted to a formal sedan, where the rear most window is covered over, but you still have the full size and “less attractive” green house.
Club sedan has a shorter main body, windows only on the doors, and very often has a built in trunk or larger trunk area, depending upon Year of the car. They look better, bring more money, and are much harder to find.
Club Brougham is a two door car with a blind rear quarter. Basically a car similar to modern two door cars that have one large door and a rear seat.
Then there are another assorted names and configurations, but they all fit into the above catagory. A town car can be a six window car, or close coupled like a club sedan.
See photos below. It should help.
