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My dad’s old car (1931 Series 42) that he bought in 71 has been in the garage of every home I have lived in since I was 6 years old (41 years). It was a gift to me when I finished college. It will be at a PAS meet some day, it’s only about 1/3 done. There is nothing like a family history with a car. Paul, just think only a few more payments and the car will be paid off! Ed
I ran my 36 V-12 at 7am today, cranked over about 5 times and fired off for the first time since mid November. I have now owned the car 20 years, time sure does fly. Ed
It’s not 1/4 inch, If it’s the one that runs from fender to fender and along the board , it’s larger, and Max Merrit has it. Ed
Tony is correct, there were also trim rings around the gauge cluster and steering column that were different. The jewels for the passing lights were cut with facets early on then changed to a plain dome style. The casting for the dash is different for open and closed cars.
Member John Cislak just had a 32 column on his bench about a month ago, give him a call and I am sure he can help. Good luck, Ed
Our motto in New England…… “Drive them like you stole them..”” Ed”
Sorry for the delay, I was down at Amelia Island…. A GREAT meet. I think that speed run on the track running three wide into the first turn was my most memorable car experience I have ever had. I was thinking how ironic….. I can crash my best car I own into another one of my car…… sure would have been interesting filling out the accident report for my insurance company….. “I got cut off in the first turn when we went three wide into the switch backs….”” CLAIM DENIED.”
If my memory serves me correctly, Tony has experience on a closed course speed run in a Pierce Arrow. And as I remember it was a PAS annual meet. I seem to remember the look on his face was either joy or terror; maybe both. Ed
It’s interesting that the car Peter posted has in the ad that the PAS has some kind of approval or comment on the cars history. As far as I know, the club makes no such comments or determination. Maybe a letter from the club’s attorney should be sent to the seller stating such. Ed
Dave, I for one would like to thank you for your many years of excellent service to both the PAS and the Museum Foundation. Treasurer, Hershey tent, The Gathering, Meet Chairman, the list goes on and on. You have been a most valuable member to both organizations, the hobby, and just a over all great ambassador to the hobby. Your hard work that you and your wife have contributed to countless hours of good times and memories for HUNDREDS of members. THANK YOU! Ed Minnie
That’s the car. It was monochrome “brilliant red” according to factory records. Sever Pierce Arrows made it to India in the 20’s and 30’s. A 1936 1601 was the last one, now owned by a PAS member in New Delhi. He is currently restoring it. Ed
Above photo is a 30 Gemmer worm. Not a Ross, but they look the same. Notice the Timken special bearing with the race part of the worm. If the box has water in it, the race will be rusty and impossible to repair. Ed
By backing off on the preload…… It’s very difficult to get these boxes set up correctly in the car, it’s now time to pull it out and set it up on a bench. The only adjustment that is safe to do in the car is the pitman arm shaft endplay adjustment. The oil in the box will prevent you from getting it set up correctly, It would be best to tear it all the way down and adjust it dry. Ed
Could be a bad bushing in the slip on steering column cover, often damaged by chrome shops. Simple to figure out, pull the pitman arm while the wheels are jacked. If the front wheels move left and right by hand with almost little or no effort, then your problem is in the box. The 32 Ross boxes have very few problems, and if kept lubricated, almost no adjustments are ever required. Corrosion was found and taken care of……. well it’s almost impossible to fix these boxes if water enters them. The are no over the counter bearings in the box. I have some NOS 32 box bearings and other parts, and may have a spare good worm. They are more difficult to set up than most people realize, as you need to get correct lash at both the center as well as full left and right turn. I had one apart 3 months ago, but did not take any photos. ALSO parts DO NOT interchange from one box to another, as they were machined and assembled as a unit. That goes for all Ross and Gemmer boxes used by Pierce. I may also have a good used box in the barn if you end up needing it. My bet is the bad bushing in the cover or poor workmanship from the previous repair. Good luck, Ed
I have photos of all three cars in the dessert in 1932 if my memory serves me, and the town car looked like it did at the factory. There have been lots of rumors about the price of this town car, people toss out 20 or 30 grand. I have seen a early factory invoice (I was not allowed to make a copy) that showed just under 14 thousand dollars. Pierce built a 1931 series 42 touring that was valued at over $100,000 when it was displayed in Kansas City at the dealers auto show. It had armed guards and a small low fence around it. The price was due to diamonds on the hubcaps and a dash covered in jewels. I have a photo of the car on display as well as the dash board. The car was sold to a Maharaja in India. The car is still in India, minus the jewels. Ed
It is the same car. The Shah’s garage had a 29 D/C Phaeton, a 1930 series A Limo. and the town car. There may be others. I own the lap robe from the Brunn town car, I purchased it from Hermann Brunn’s daughter in the early 90’s, the family kept it and never sent it with the car. The family crest on the robe matches the crest on the rear seats and door panels. My guess is the fenders from the limo and the spare tires were placed on the town car as the town car did not have any way to carry a spare, not a good idea in a dessert where all the roads in the city were still used mostly by animals and carts. Imagine all the nails from the horse shoes! Ed
Last I knew it was a no sale. If I remember it was either not running or was stuck, but not sure. Ed