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I looked up 1909 Model 24 in “American Automobiles of the Brass Era” by Robert D. Dluhy, and the item quoted was for the touring of 111 inch wheelbase. It stated: 34 X 3.5/4 .   I would be surprised if the Roadster was different. Rich Anderson has one and is very helpful to those in need.

 

Tony

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They are beautiful enough to put on the mantle until needed.

 

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There are some over the top people doing their best to keep wheels on this organization and the Foundation. I wish them the best.

Tony Costa

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Hi Peter,

Our Post Office is rural and won’t deliver to a street address and will return to sender if so addressed. UPS and Fedex deliver to my door but won’t deliver to a PO Box address. I inserted the address that UPS and Fedex have used to bring me my packages for 25 years and google spit it out. We have a grid system that issues house numbers according to how they show up on a map. It’s 6 numbers. If you’re out in the middle of nowhere the fire dept. knows exactly where you are. In tracts , the house next door’s number has no relation to the one next door. I am using the number the previous owner gave me that he had used since 1964. The grid number system had been initiated before I bought the house, so I tried to find out what it was. I went to the water dept. and county assessor, no luck. I still have no clue what it is and I continue to use what the previous owner gave me, and it hasn’t hurt me until now.

I inserted: 100 Pine Circle   Westwood, Cal. 96137      It rejected it and gave me 5 choices below the rectangle that I had put my correct address in, and none were my address or one that would work.

I’m beginning to think google is discriminating because of the color of my skin.

So , Im hoping that somebody at Optma can take a call from me and can bypass the system that will not allow UPS (or?) to have my street address that Amazon uses successfully umpteen times.

Sorry to bug you,

Tony C.

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Dear Sir:

I am having troubles with the web site. They will not accept my address as it doesn’t make google maps happy. I have been using the address I inserted as my street and delivery location for 25 years. I regularly get delivery by UPS and other delivery outfits using this address and no one has ever refused to allow me to insert it in a delivery address section form. I want 2 batteries. Can you help?

Your frustrated friend,

Tony Costa

 

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To the good Dr.:   Happy days are here again! I can’t wait to get a large charge. Thanks for making good things happen.

 

Tony

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The car sold for $44,000. A ’36 Packard with a questionable but serviceable interior and original underneath that might be nice to be seen in at the grocery store, sold for $16,000. My wallet is happy that I wasn’t aware of this sale before the car sold. A large number of cars went home with new owners, but their old owners had their crying towels out. A comely Kaiser Darrin was expected to do upwards to $200,000. It sold for $125,000. The buyers of the Pierce paid a fair price and the sellers will not need grief counseling in this hard to call market. There are so many lucrative places to park your investment money instead of paying storage on a collector car, like stashing it under your matress for the rainy day heading our way.

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If this fails, contact Cislak and then whip out your roster and start calling those owning a similar car. Want ads in the HCCA Classifieds, AACA, and here may be fruitful. In the old days, rewards for info or parts were offered. If you have too much money, be like Harrah, buy a parts car, take off what you need and go into the parts business.

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Bob,

I’m so disappointed that you didn’t buy your part from this hurting fellow. It’s obvious that you too would be very infirm if you had to part out your ’33 Silver Arrow. It must be debilitating to your healtth to run a dating service out of an 89 year old car in a winter in Mother Russia. Have you no heart?

Respectfully, Tony

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This car is a Stevens-Duryea 1911 Model AA. They cost $3,500 when a 36HP Pierce cost $4,000. The Stevens had  404 cubic inches and 128 inch wheelbase while the smallest Pierce (36HP) had 386 cubic inches and a 125 inch wheelbase. I believe the Stevens had a 3 speed progressive transmission (my memory has failed me before) and the Pierce had a 4 speed one. Fifteen hundred Stevens were built in 1911. They were offered in a four cylinder Model X, the Model AA 6 cylinder, and the 6 cylinder Model Y, a 142 inch wheelbase, 478 cubic inch $4,000. They were known for their fine handling and great engineering. I’ve had the pleasure of riding in Harvey Harper’s 1910 Model Y, 2 1910 Model X’s, a 1915 Model D and a 1907 Model U. There are 4 1911 Stevens-Duryea’s listed in the HCCA Roster. One is a Pebble Beach 1st place winner in my local HCCA Club. If my love for the make has moved you, one 1910 Model X 4 cylinder is on sale at Hymans Limited for $179,500.

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Dave,

Thank you for the nice words or were they? I sure couldn’t fill your boots. You must have gone to juggling school to keep all your responsibilities in the air and still be able to smile. Your name will be spoken long after the rest of us have checked out.

 

With much respect, Tony

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My only claim to fame, is that I rode in Tyrone Power III’s teens Pierce-Arrow. It was owned at the time by Roland Zilmer, who sold me my first Pierce. Roland owned at least 5 Pierces. His oldest was a 1911 Model 36, purchased from Jordy Carlton who had 40 (?) cars. It was a basket case. Jordy took an unfortunate boat trip to Mexico. His boat was found floating and was burnt to the water-line without the three supposed to be in it, anywhere to be found. Roland showed the ’11 Pierce at Pebble Beach. Somebody failed to show, so at the last minute Roland was invited to fill in. Roland had been a collector since the ’50’s and had never owned a trailer. He drove the Pierce from Burlingame, Ca. to Pebble Beach and back (at least an hour and half  one way in a modern car, which are the speeds he drove it at).

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The dash looks great. The car has come a long way. Thanks for sharing your expertise. Do you think it will keep up with your Packard?

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How does it perform may be an unusual question to ask a show winning car owner, but I’ve never had the opportunity before. I know a straight engine has more ability to generate torque than a V engine. Wills Ste. Claire started out with a V8 overhead cam engine. They dropped it to bring out the straight 6 overhead cam engine. Did they do it to cut expenses? Was the 8 giving them problems? Is the 6  more powerful? Was Wills in his right mind?

I bought a house off an old timer. We got talking about old cars. He related a story about waiting for a ferry that crossed the San Francisco Bay. He had a  long wait as it was a weekend. Along came a Wills Ste Claire with a young boy who was injured in a bad accident. Part of a windshield stantion was sticking out of a part of his body. It had been sawed off to free the boy. The car was moved up to the front of the line and loaded onto the ferry. The ferry departed with the one car to cross the bay and seek medical care in San Francisco.

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Welcome , and thanks for posting about your amazing leap into Pierce ownership. I met Luke at Angola. A short acquaintance was enough to realize what a great loss to us all, was his early passing. It’s nice to have you join us.

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Greg, you’re on to something! Time share early cars may be a hot way to

own brass and classics in the future. No more storing a 4,500 lb. artifact

for the whole year when you only want to excite envy in your neighbors a

couple of times a year. I’m going to consult my business advisor, Bernie

Madoff, to see if we can rig a business offering. We will have a “special””

for the month of January.”

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What skill level do you need to hookup one? My GPS has been lying to me lately.

Maybe an execution is in order.

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The average male in 1920 was 5ft. 7 inches.

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William,

The fact that someone would pay close to $40K, then 15%, then 7.5% tax, for

an Alco missing most of it’s engine and requiring a small fortune and years

of restoration…..tells me that car collectors are more optimistic than

golfers.

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Mrs. Harper told me today that lots were sold to 17 different states and 3

foreign countries.

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