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Scott,

Superb commentary!

Peter

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Gents,

The problem with the word “Classic” is that everyone uses it and there is a continual (continuous?) discussion in the AACA publications and elsewhere about the USE of the term.

Lots of folks apply classic to anything that is more than 25-years old.

I have a 1987 BMW, 325i, Cabriolet (47K-miles) and have had people tell me it is “Classic.”

It is not, but it is fun to own and to drive and it does qualify for showing at any AACA Meet.

I don’t think that my 1925, Pierce-Arrow, Series 80, 7-Passenger DeLuxe Sedan is “Classic.”

I just think that it is a Pierce-Arrow, and that is more than good enough for me.

I’ll believe that the “Classics” are actually the study of Greco-Roman culture, philosophy and languages.

Ave atque vale,

Peter

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Gents,

Repetitiously Redundant!

CCCA has the Chrysler Town & Country, a continuation of the Chrysler Windsor (a low cost introductory level auto), as a Full Classic.

That had to do with a number of the CCCA National Board Members owning these wood-bodied cars.

It is NOT a FINE automobile.

After the the CCCA passed the rule, and the prices of the T&C skyrocketed, most of the voting Board Members owning the Town & Country cars resigned from the Board.

The CCCA is populated with snobs, and I know because I was on the Board of Directors of the New England Region.

During my tenure, they would not tolerate Pierce-Arrow cars and when I asked one Super Snoot; “George, don’t you own a Pierce-Arrow,” he replied; “I would NEVER own a Pierce-Arrow.”

Shortly thereafter, I resigned from the Board.

Some nice Buick people, but mostly Packard Snobs.

ACCA is a better, more inviting and inclusive Car Club.

Of course, the Pierce-Arrow Motor Car Club is a SOCIETY and what more can you say?

Are we snobs? That is an open question, but I don’t look down on other vintage marques.

It is only the bastards (hot rodded vintage cars) that I disdain.

Peter

http://www.americancars-for-sale.com/5795/1934-pierce-arrow

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The can appears to indicate that it is endorsed by Harrtz.

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Kenneth,

Here is a link.

Peter

http://www.amazon.com/RaggTopp-Protectant-Restores-Maintains-Convertible/dp/B0002KKIUK

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Here is an active link

http://www.hemmings.com/blog/2018/09/10/bendunbefor-pierces-chainless-bicycle/?refer=news

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Ken,

BTW, contact Paul Jacobs, as he was selling reproductions of that cap for something in the range of $100.00.

Those you can drill for a Moto Meter without ruining a piece of history (original bakelite cap) that you will never again find.

Peter

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John,

Welcome to the Pierce-arrow Society!

NICE SNAG at Owls Head!

Enjoy the 54 Coupé.

Peter

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Loyd,

What do you mean about if a radiator cap being original?

Do you mean how does one know if it is a reproduction?

Please explain.

Peter

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Gents,

I must admit that I’m sorry I wasn’t at that Owls Head Craps Table with $40-Large in my pocket.

Peter

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David,

The Auction person from Owls Head indicated: “Eh, car was not perfect, ran well, and prewar closed car. So it was a good buy for sure .”

That is all I know, however, it is a Model 54 Coupé. and there are only about five currently listed on the PAS Roster.

Also, I was not correct about the price.

It was $33,550.00 all fees included.

Peter

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Jim,

That car has had 7-owners since 1974 and was most recently purchased at Hershey in 1997 by a Gent named Gary Lawing, of Tampa, Florida.

Before that the names associated with it are; McBel Trust, Florence Belden, Marshall B. Belden, Wally Rank and Leo Gephart who bought it in 1974 from AstroWorld.

This is probably useless info for you, but I had some time on my hands to do the research.

Peter

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Tony,

It SOLD for $30,000!

That was a STEAL!

I understand that the high bidder was wearing a black mask and black leather gloves!

WOWIE!

Peter

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David,

How about these!

Peter

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-Car-Roadster-Top-Rest-Brackets-MT-1894/401517185126?hash=item5d7c4a0866:g:XxQAAOSw1gdaw9K7

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Kenneth,

A handsome Series 80, DeLuxe Sedan!

Peter

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David,

I don’t know if it is useful, but years ago, I found some things under the BACK seat of my car.

Until then, I thought that under the FRONT seat was the only place for storage.

Peter

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John,

George is always having fun with his Pierce-Arrow cars.

Even when George finds a pile of horse poop, he starts looking for the pony!

Peter

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David,

Welcome to the Pierce-Arrow Society!

We are a helpful group, so no question it too dumb to ask.

We are all on a learning curve, regardless of our years of experience with Pierce-Arrow cars.

Peter

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Jay,

Do you have the round bar / tube-type bumper holders / arms?

If not, I believe that Karl Krouch reproduced them recently.

Peter

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Jay,

Here is a photo of the Hancock’s Series 80 Roadster (now sold). It was a Weis Award winner.

Note that it has an aftermarket Duplex front bumper.

Peter

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