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Amos,

The 1969-3 Arrow has a lot of information about the Travelodge. If you don’t have this issue, I can e-mail you a copy.

 

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From PASB 2020-3:

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The links to the two manuals that Carl provided are now listed under “Service Manuals” in the Parts and Services Directory” and can be downloaded there.  They are VERY large (100’s of MB) downloads. They are viewable without downloading. Thanks to Carl for providing the links.

Pierce issued a number of Service Bulletins under various names, over the life of the company.  Mark has supplied some digital copies to the PAS (’20s era) and I will be publishing them on occasion in the PAS Service Bulletin. Thank you Mark.  Some are also in the PAS Library available at the AACA Library. Some have been published in past PAS Service Bulletins and should turn up in a PASB search on the website.

If anyone knows of a full set (roughly 600 or more) of the Service Letters,/Bulletins, I would like to digitize them for use in our Service Bulletin. Mark has gotten the process started. Eventually I would like to index them and make them  available on the website as was done with the PAS Service Bulletins.

Dave

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The links to these manuals have been posted in the Parts and Services Directory under “Service Manuals”.

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Carl,

Thanks for posting the links. Both of these manuals are downloadable, but are very large files.

The Pierce-Arrow Tune up information from the National Service Manual is provided in PAS Tune up Guide available in the Company Store.

Dave

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Carl,

I am pretty sure that I have a digital copy. I am out of the country until Wednesday. I can check when I get home. It will be a large file and will have to be sent using Wetransfer or something similar.

Dave

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Kevin,

Service Bulletin 1981-2 (page 11 ) has a number of lubrication charts including 840A.  On this website, under Member Pages, go to the Publications  & Technical tab and then Service Bulletin Library, find that issue and you can download it. Let me know if you have trouble getting it.

Dave

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Some additional photos from Glens Falls.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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The 2023 Weis Award Winner, a 1936 1602 V-12 Convertible Coupe from Florida.

 

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There are several vendors listed in the “Parts and Services Directory” that deal with Honeycomb Radiators.

 

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Curtiss,

There are several carb suppliers listed in the Parts and Services Directory under Member Pages. If you find any are out of business (or you locate someone else) let me know and I’ll update the Directory.

Dave

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Pretty crazy, considering Hemming’s has another similar ’36 1602 listed for $49,500, and it has been listed for a while.

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Carl,

These photos are both of 1930 Bs. Two different methods of attaching the rod. I’m not sure which is correct.

 

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Dave,

Thanks for the feedback.

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Steve,

Arrow 69-3 features the Travel Lodges with copies of brochures, specifications, etc.  Printed copies are available from Dave Stevens. I can e-mail you a digital copy.

Dave

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This information is in PASB 99-5;

Connecting Rod Bearings on “8” and “12” Engines …..
To: (the owner of a ’34 Model 836A)
Your letter asks if the connecting rod bearings in your 1934 Model
836A engine may be replaced with modern shell-type bearings as described by
Eric Rosenau in PASB 80-3.
When this engine was designed, the crankshaft main bearings were laid
out as replacement shell type, but the connecting rod bearings were designed
as centrifugally cast-in-place babbitt, with babbitt thrust shoulders on ei-
ther side of the bearing.
The Pierce ~Twelve”, a later design, did not use the thrust shoulders.
Therefore, it is no great problem to replace the spun-in-place bearings of
the “Twelve” with modern straight shell bearings, but the connecting rod
bearings of the “Eight” require a shell bearing having shoulders on either
side equal to the thickness of the original babbitt shoulder. The rod width
is much less than the crankshaft bearing journal.
Further, the “Eight” rod was deliberately left rough in the big end
bore to form a better bond with the babbitt.
Therefore, in order to use a shell bearing, the rods must be accu-
rately diamond-bored.
The only shell bearing having thrust shoulders to fit this rod is the
Seagrave, made for this engine later by Seagrave, the old parts numbers be-
ing 28201 (upper and 28202 (lower). I do not know who supplied these to Sea-
grave, but suspect that it was the Cleveland Graphite Bronze Division, of
the Clevite Corporation, 17000 St. Clair Ave., Cleveland, Ohio.
Probably the simplest solution is to replace the poured-in-place bab-
~itt bearings and bore them to suit the crankshaft journals. There are exam-
ples of these “Eights” havin,g run a half million miles on such bearings, so
they may be adequate for an antique. If the bearing dimensions are supplied
to the vendor who is rebuilding your engine, little else should be neces-
sary.

PASB 68-1 also mentions the use of insert bearings for Seagrave V-12 for the rods with some machining required.  Seagrave is still in business, it might be worth contacting them.       [email protected]

Dave

 

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I contacted Clean Sweep to make sure they are still in business. They are.

Melissa Klein
Clean sweep Wiper Motors
3395 NW Elm Ave
Redmond, OR  97756
541-410-5671

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David,

If you haven’t checked with Clean Sweep, I suggest you also try them.  I spoke with the original owner several years ago and he was very knowledgeable and helpful.  I believe that he is out of the business now and I think it is run by his daughter. It wouldn’t hurt to talk to them.

Dave

Updated contact information for them:

Now run by Melissa Klein it is at 3395 NW Elm Ave, Redmond, OR 97756

541-410-5671

[email protected]

 

 

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There are two vendors listed in the Parts and Services Directory that deal in Windshield Wipers. They might be able to help you.

Body & Trim (External)
Windshield wiper motors, blades, etc.
– Rebuild kits, NOS
David Ficken
631-587-3332
132 Calvert Avenue
West Babylon, NY 11704
http://www.rebuildingtricowipers.com

 

Body & Trim (External)
Windshield wiper repair
Clean-Sweep
541-923-4319
2633 SW Obsidian, Unit #15
Redmond, OR 97756
[email protected]

 

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Carl,

That is one of seven Galloping Geese, created by the Rio Grande Southern Railroad using used cars. That looks like Goose #4, built in 1934. It looks to me like a Series 33 from the 20s. The first Goose was built in 1930, based on a Buick car. Number Six was also based on a Buick, but later updated using a Pierce-Arrow.  The rest were built on used Pierce-Arrows. #1 exists in replica form, the rest still exist.  They have seen many modifications over the years. More information at http://drgw.free.fr/RGS/Goose/Goose_en.htm

For more information on Goose #4, go to  https://www.ridgwayrailroadmuseum.org/Goose4.html  It looks like at some point the body was replaced.

Here is a cleaner copy of the same picture.

Dave

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