Dennis,
What year car is this in? How many cylinders? Are you sure the 123379 number is not a casting number? It does not fit in any P-A engine number sequence I can find. There are several cars listed in the PAS database with this as the engine number which makes me think it is a casting number. If this is an 8 cyl., the engine number should be STAMPED on a flat midway down the block at the joint with the head on the driver’s side. A correct serial number would indicate the year.
The other number looks like a casting date code, except that it should start with a letter. 5-16 = May 16th. If the first character were a “J”, it would be 1929. Could it possibly be an “L”, which would be 1931?
Dave
Have you checked with John Cislak?
Kevin,
See Service Bulletin ’78-2. It is available in the Service Bulletin Library under Publications on the website.
Brooks,
There is no ownership time listed in Bernie’s files.
Dave
Brooks,
A car purporting to be Preston Tucker’s car (1936 1602 Convertible Coupe) is in the PAS records and the Weis files as belonging to a Monty Holmes in Washington. He apparently passed away last year, so we have no record as to the current owner. Possibly a family member?
Dave
Hi Terry,
I think they just used the picture of your former car to show the windwings they are looking for. By serial number, different cars. Their car has a long history in Spain.
Dave
I spoke with one of Paul’s caregivers this morning. He is unable to take calls at this time
Hi Rosa,
The car has been transferred to your record. We show it as a 1930 Model A Phaeton.
Let us know if you are unable to find the wind wings.
Dave
Rosa,
Your best bet is to contact John Cislak (see below). He has lots of parts for ’30s era Pierce-Arrows. If he doesn’t have any, he may know of someone that does. I do know of a glass company that can make the glass portion, but they wouldn’t have the brackets. If you want this information, I will find it for you.
I would like to enter your car’s information onto your PAS record, could you supply me the year, model serial and engine numbers?
Thanks,
Dave
Cislak, John E.
33 Briggs ST
Indian Orchard, MA 01151-2105
United States
Home Phone: 413/543-9017
Office Phone: 413/543-9017
Email: [email protected]
Do you have the mounting brackets and just need the glass, or do you need the complete wind wing, glass and bracket?
Ed,
The easiest way to check mixture is to look at a spark plug. I usually drive the car and pull over, shut it off and pull a plug after it cools a little. The plug tip insulator should be light tan. White indicates too lean, black too rich. See: https://blackhawkparamotor.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Spark-Plug-Color-For-Paramotor-Engines.pdf
Doing a web search for ” How to check mixture by reading a spark plug” will give you all kinds of information.
Another option is to get a tailpipe “sniffer”.
Dave
Bob,
Are these what you are looking for?
https://pierce-arrowmuseum.org/store/1933-thru-1938-Pierce-Arrow-Running-Board-Rubber-Mats-p93971808
I’ll get it off your member record.
Edward,
There is going to be an article on troubleshooting overheating in the next issue of the Service Bulletin. I can e-mail that article to you now if it will help you. Sorry, I don’t know of anyone in your area that works on Pierce-Arrows.
Dave
Klaus,
Glad it worked out.
Dave
Klaus,
PAS records show the car belongs to a former PAS member, Mary Reynolds, in CT. It is possible the car has been sold on. If you would like her contact information, e-mail me at [email protected]. If you have additional historical information on the car, I can add it to the car’s PAS record.
Dave

It’s going to be a great tour car.
Kirby,
It’s looking great. Refresh my memory, you just buffed the existing paint, or new?
Sorry, your grandfather. The car is in CT. I found it digging through some old records. It was reportedly purchased in 1999, about the right timeline from your description. I don’t think it is for sale, but you can contact him and ask. I will e-mail you his contact info. Dave
Jason,
If your father is the person I mentioned above, I know where the car is now. Please confirm your father was Richard J. Peterson of Napa, CA and I will e-mail the information to you. It is a 1933 836 Club Sedan.
Dave
