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Eggs Babbitt guy probably felt pour, so left….he was just scraping by, probably had some bearing on his decision….his leaving might cause some additional friction in the workplace…

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Guess I’m gushing, I’ve been working on buying this engine for about a year. In fact, my first contact with owner was in January 2016, he’d bought a collection of marine engines in late 2015 and wasn’t familiar with this “oddball”. Everything just seemed to come together in the last couple of weeks, even though I would have bet odds that I didn’t stand a chance. And, of course, as Ed and I have discussed, it’s best keeping these things tight to the vest until one’s grubby little hands are holding it tight!

I’m just happy another piece of Pierce history is now known to us. Keep looking, one never knows what’s going to show up out there! As Ed knows, I’m working now with an individual who has two pieces of Pierce memorabilia that are exceptionally unusual, hopefully something will come of that also!

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I’ve had some serious issues with Egge, though some people seem to think they’re the know all/be all. I’m a believer in Arias, a little pricey but you’re done with it for your lifetime. I have a set of Arias pistons and rings for my 1910 Buick Model 16, they are so pretty I hate to hide them in the engine.

Proper rings can make or break an engine, so to speak and as you know, so go with quality…

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Beautiful, both!! That’s a very handsome car, and a lovely lady….

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Wow, other Ed, you must have been typing the very second I was replying to the OTHER Ed!

Remember, Ed M., it’s IN TRANSIT to me, it can’t grow roots at your place!!

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Thanks, Ed, I’ve always wanted a Motorette, but think they’re out of my price range right now. I started pursuing this Pierce engine almost a year ago, and finally was able to acquire it….not the holy grail, but a rare piece of history.

Ed has verified it’s a 1903, although the serial number doesn’t seem to match the current records on this site for 6 cylinder engines….

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Interesting “trunk””! Wish they’d posted some interior shots……”

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You also may wish to check with Arias, they have beautiful (and functional!) stuff….

https://ariaspistons.com/

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Good progress, Richard!

I would make one comment, it appears from some of the other items in the pictures that this is a “regular” body and paint shop, that is, one that doesn’t exclusively do early cars.

I had a friend who ran such a shop, mainly did insurance work on newer cars. He painted some fenders for me, and I didn’t explain to him that parts of the UNDERSIDE of the fenders were very visible. As a result, the outside of the parts were great, but there were some rough spots underneath that were visible and not very good looking in the finished product.

Just make sure your guy understands, under the hood, the outer sides of the sidemount wells, and so forth, all need to be nice too…

Can’t wait to see the finished product!

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There is a “webbing”, or heavy woven material, that goes between the body sills and the frame, and of course there may be some shims that help align the body so the doors fit correctly (for an open car such as yours).

Then there’s welting, which goes between the rear fenders and the body, and between the front fenders and the front of the splash aprons. This is merely vinyl material sewn around a round core. The comment that puzzles me is “needs a few miles”, as there is actually not that much welting needed.

The running boards, where they meet fenders and splash aprons, normally have trim pieces at the mating points, not welting.

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I have some early 30’s color cards for Pierce, and while I haven’t measured the stripes shown, they are VERY narrow. Striping was an accent, not a focal point, so the 3/64 sounds right. It took me about 3 years to find a person who could stripe my ’31, as I wanted it done narrow and by hand (no taping involved). I don’t think it’s quite that narrow, but it’s close…

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Well, at least they kept the face of the Pierce, if not the soul. If you’re referring to “is it a first” restomod, no, there are numerous Pierce cars out there with newer running gear.

I hate to see this done, at least this was done with some taste, and from the description, saved a rotted rusty car from the junkyard.

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Many auction sites extend the auction if there’s a bid in the last minute or so. Thus, if someone bid with 10 seconds to go, trying to “snipe”, the auction gets extended for 5 minutes, so someone else can bid…it would be much more like a real auction.

I seem to remember the early days of Ebay, people would bid during the course of the auction, an item would meet a certain price level and seem to stay there until the end.

The sniping at the last second is hard to combat, as Greg says, you can put in a healthy bid, but at the last second someone just puts in a crazy number and it’s a little over yours and you’ve lost it.

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Ed, understood…the problem is that the old gas can leave a residue behind as it changes/evaporates/goes bad. So, what happens is it seems all the old gas is out of the tank, when in reality there’s a coating of sorts on the bottom of the tank…in the old days we called this varnish, as that what it appears like when it “cures”.

So, I’m not the expert here, but if you had some old gas in the tank, and now you’re having valve sticking problems, I’d sure think about dropping the tank and getting a local radiator shop to clean it out, if you have one. Luckily we still have an old time radiator shop here that’s been taken over from older gentleman by his nephew.

You’d be amazed at what can hide at the bottom of a gas tank…

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The last car that did that to me (stuck intake valves) was due to old gas. Car ran fine, got nice and heated up for the first time in years (thought all the old gas was out of tank, but there was some small amount left, put fresh gas on top of it and must have dissolved the old stuff). Next day, went to start car, valves had gummed up….so first thing I’d do is check your fuel supply. The gas these days doesn’t last like it used to, even the non-ethanol variety…

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What? It’s done already? It hasn’t been 7 years yet! (that’s how long he took on one engine I don’t want to think too much about!)….great news! If you go to get the engine, I know where there’s a Rat Fink waiting for you….

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A couple of cars should have met reserve by now, such as the Franklin, although the bid of 19,999.99 seems a little suspicious to me, as if it were shill bid to that and reserve is 20K. I’d think the 28K for the Pierce, as it sits, is getting close to all the money, but that’s just opinion. An interesting selection of cars, a high hopes seller, marginal condition/quality of restoration….it’ll be interesting to follow more…

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Sure, I’d buy one…but discounted heavily for color and interior choices (I liked the Auburn until I saw the interior), and as nice a building as they are in, and as desirable as they are, figure the balance of the “restorations” are marginal at best. Collector had good taste in selection of marques, poor taste in other areas…..

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Model 41, I believe, and could bring good money, museum cars are a crap shoot, great that they were indoors so long, but misery on the mechanicals…..

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Wow, nice find! That’s a neat brass tag, it’s so interesting that they used a permanent type tag instead of paper…

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