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Great looking car, Bob, you should add it to your collection!! Here’s the direct link to the article…
Yes, I was talking of Pierce specifically.
No, don’t think so, the head has to be removed…..
I’m fairly positive the head has to be removed, as long as the crankshaft is still in place….
Thanks Dave, I didn’t realize that, that’s great!
It appears from a quick search that the use of the name Pierce Arrow for motor vehicles is not currently an active registration. (see attached) I have no idea how thorough this search engine really might be….
I would think in the mid to late 50’s that dealers, particularly ones of a somewhat fading brand, would have gone to great lengths to try doing something different. I’ve seen 1957 Chevrolets that were upgraded when new to look more like a Cadillac, they were called El Morocco. I’d think the ad shown is a similar attempt to upgrade a car that might have been a slow seller, of course, the mystery is whether such a car was ever badged.
http://www.trademarkia.com/trademark/trademark_step0.aspx?tn=pierce%20arrow
Yes, I agree, you’re going to need something fabricated. I can’t imagine that this is a part that someone has sitting gathering dust. The picture isn’t coming up on my screen, so I don’t know what the issue might be.
If you really get in a bind, I have an excellent local metal man, specializing in antique and Classic cars (he’s working on a ’33 Chrysler and a ’60’s Ferrari now), and he could replicate a frame for you. $50 an hour, but honest hours and great work.
I realize nothing in life is simple, but would it be possible to just slightly modify the wording of the trophy eligibility, and state that once a car wins, it’s not eligible for 25 years to win again? (or 30, whatever time frame is felt sufficient). Few 25 year old restorations can compete at that level, and by then, as stated, someone else probably owns it and/or has had to freshen the restoration.
Yikes, that’s rough….he’s very optimistic about value
Try this, in the small search box put Pierce of course…
Their estimate on the shaft drive sure looks high, but one never knows these days…it’s a beautiful bike….
From their pre-auction estimate on this bicycle, I’d say the 1903 shaft drive nickel plated Pan American model, sold last year at their auction at around $7500, was a bargain….
There was a man’s bike just sold on Ebay to “best offer”, I think that was a rebadged later Angola bike…I’m getting very suspicious of any Buffalo badge bicycle that has screws holding the badge…
Wow, I never received the CCCA “what’s your net worth” questions, they sure would have been disappointed with mine! I’ve pondered the last few years about not re-upping with CCCA, habit keeps me on the list. They’re diluting the original goal of the club, and with a lot of Classics being high dollar, pushing out the “little” guys….
That’s one thing about our Society that I really like, most everyone seems down to earth….and a great bunch of people…
Free wheeling aside, that sure is a beautiful 1919 roadster that was first discussed…I noticed it when it first came up for sale and thought then, as now, that it’s a very handsome car. I would hope it’s “real”, and I’d say it’s worth more than 100K and, apparently due to no sale yet, less than asking price. Sure would like it myself, but my ship’s still at sea….
I understand from another forum that the parts have been located, still on the property…..
My ’31 phaeton was originally green body, khaki fenders, green interior. Original, but I hated the color scheme.
I remember once on a tour in Texas with Fred Tycher, he looked at the car (still green and khaki) and said “That’s a very correct Pierce color scheme, not attractive, but correct”. When I had my engine fire and decided to freshen up the 1960 restoration, color change was the first thing on my mind.
I also agree that the car shown is not only a great body style, but very tastefully done….nice, nice….
Based on comments, I guess my “firmly believe” will need to start changing! I have a slight case of shimmy every now and then on my ’31, but know that the previous owner restored it the first time in 1960 (after driving it in original condition from New York to New Orleans), probably not doing anything to the front end, and then drove it tens of thousands of miles. I know the front end on the car is worn, if not quite worn out….as one gets older, one has firm beliefs, but one should also be able to use the wisdom learned with age to learn and change…
My opinion is that any steering shake is due to worn out parts or unbalanced wheels/tires.
Too many cars are restored cosmetically but when it comes to front end components such as king pins and tie rod ends and so forth, “it’s good enough”” is brought into play.
I can’t believe they shook when new….and firmly believe it’s worn out parts that cause the issue.”
Awful news, so sorry to hear….not the kind of stuff that a pawn shop will take, so one would think that it would be advertised or Ebayed….a good friend of mine had his missing Stoddard Dayton stuff (pins, pictures, that kind of stuff) show up on Ebay, and it was recovered, as it had been stolen and sold to a local antique shop….so there’s hope….
…and ’36 as it was first seen as I drove onto the farm property…
