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Paul. Give John a call. I think he may have one. Ed
Richard, car looks great. What’s the early car in the background? Ed
Ralph McQuoid has been in the area all of his life and has been collecting PA cars since the 50’s. He may have additional information. Both his cars were local if I remember correctly.
The ice chest will be serving cold drinks this summer at the PAS meet in Rhode Island. Then it will be off to the Pierce Foundation Museum for it’s forever home. Ed.
As our road trip adventure continues, we just picked up a 34 1240A club sedan thats been locked up in the garage for 51 years. It’s not been seen by any club member that we can determine. Off to check out another barn find today, a 840 club sedan. Not sure if this one is in the club records. Home tonight at midnight.
Craig, not my car. It belongs to a friend. It was a real treat to drive it around.
The American Pickers were at the same stop as we were the day before.
Last one.
Another shot
A new Pierce for my collection.
Curtiss….most days were in the high 70’s to mid 80’s. One day it only went up to 65 but we still kept the top down. The photo was taken on Worth Ave. one of the most exclusive shopping areas in the US. Lunch was around 85 per person there so we went over to West Palm for a sandwich and it was only 15 bucks. I guess all of the PAS people like a bargain! My best to all and keep posting those winter project photos! Ed
Spent a few days driving around in Palm Beach in the sunshine. Couldnt find a new rental car so we had to use this one. Ran fine and got a lot of looks at the beach. Ed
It’s alarming to see how many cars have bad manifolds on them. Almost every time I go to look at a PA for sale the Stromberg carb castings are failing or the manifold looks like it was welded by a fifth grade welding class. Cast iron heads are not too far behind. Many years ago the manifolds were reproduced and sold for very reasonable money. The molds were no longer serviceable after 125 or 150 were made. Now Dave M. is making VERY NICE manifolds, but with modern times and patterns they are not inexpensive. (But they are worth every penny.) I think he needs to make them in batches of 10, and thus the wait for production can take a while. If everyone who had a factory manifold ordered one I bet the price would drop by more than half. All of us are at risk of not being able to drive our car if we don’t support the projects that others are trying to manufacture. If you think spare parts on the shelf are expensive, wait until lack of available parts (reproduction) cause the price of the cars to fall. Support the hobby and the club, and many future generations will enjoy the cars.
Oil pan part number for 1929 as well as all of the 1930 series engines was #123316, although there were 2 diffrent 29 styles due to the fact early 29 motors had a diffrent oil dump / drain for the rear main seals. After looking at no less than 30 Pierce oil pans on the shelf today, I can report none of them had the bump out like the one in the photo above. Thus, I think the pan with the bump is early style 29. I also checked the spare motors in the racks; as well as my 31 series 42 and 32 series 54 along with a bunch of spare engines from 29 to 37 and none of them had the bump out either.
I checked with John Cislak today, he has a set of timing gears and chain for a 29. Give him a call or email.
Chris, have you made up your mind on how to fix the intake manifold?
I was going to guess the pan with the bump out is for the 1930 series c and 1931 series 43 for the timing gear cam drive set up. I checked part numbers for 1931 and it lists series 41&42 AS #723316, and the series 43 as # 744394. Even the gaskets for the oil pans have diffrent part numbers. My 29 and 30 parts catalog are at the shop, if I remember I will look it up tomorrow. The info provided by the 1930 owners is interesting. I will also check my 1930 series a & b engines as well as my 41,42 and 43 that are in the shop to see what they have.
Jack, send me a direct email, I don’t have one but know where there is one on a shelf. Ed
1930 used two diffrent cam drives, A & B used a short chain diffrent than 29 and C used gears only. 1929 has several diffrent upgrades to the motor and pump drive system. I am not sure if there are diffrent gears but I think the floating gear to adujust the chain changed over the course of 29. It would make sense to get photos of what you have and what you are buying to be sure they are correct. Also, check your oil pump casting to be sure the old pot metal pump has been replaced with a new one. Also be sure to check the gemmer box has had the pot metal bearing races replaced or steering failure could be a problem.
I would be very careful welding that intake. They are going to have to heat it to 900 degrees to weld it, and between the length and how the weld will pull on the intake runner, it will warp. The question is how much, and if it will crack when cooling. In that location I don’t have any good advice on what to do. For the cost of welding and machining, then taking a chance of cracking from thermo cycling, I think I would just find a good intake. They are fairly common and should prove not too difficult to locate. One must wonder if it had a leak before you took it apart. Unexpected surprises like this can sure ruin your winter project! If you do get it welded please post some photos. Thanks for the project posting, Ed.
