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Jeff Harper, a member of our Society, owner of a large collection,
and knowledgeable auto historian, has a 1912 P-A 36UU that is in
the process of restoration. I don’t believe it has upholstery in it.
I would think that there is little difference between it and the ’11.
What’s the going price for 1935 headlight lenses and parking light lenses?
It’s definitely better than any Super Bowl ad I saw this year!
Peter Fawcett supplies body castings for brass and teens bodies. He may be
able to shed some light on how to assemble and attach wood to the bodies.
His contact information is in the roster. As this is his business, I would
seek his help first. If the AACA Library comes up short, there are about
four other major libraries that do research for a nominal fee. Send me a
response here if you need information on their addresses. I’m impressed
with the fine work you are doing as illustrated by the image on your
company site. It would be neat if you could send some larger pictures to
this forum.
Allen Schmidt has a 1910 Model 36-UU that he has restored. He has extensive
experience with Brass Pierce restoration through his restoration shop and
prior employment with a massive P-A stable. He also owns Restoration Supply
Company. He is a member of our Society and puts on a 1 & 2 Tour for Rodney
Flournoy. If I recall, he’s done a 1911 48-SS. I don’t think that there is much
wood involved in the bodies. There are several Automotive Libraries that
will supply copies of their literature on hand. I believe that The Antique Auto
Club of America Library has a good Pierce-Arrow collection. If you need more
library advice, I will provide it.
I’ve suffered PTSD from my pedal to the metal ride around Watkins Glenn in
“Mighty”” Minnie’s V12. It expresses itself in compulsive buying disorder. In
a weak moment at the ST. Louis Meet I bought one of the cars Ed was trying to
give “”driving lessons”” to at Watkins Glenn. This Society does expand one’s
horizons.
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I think I’ve seen it in a Flash Gordon movie. I wonder if white smoke issues
out the rear when it is in flying mode? I bet Ming is plotting to have one built
with a supercharger and a new generation ray gun!
Paul,
I agree with your statement. My point was that Peerless shares the honors
with Pierce-Arrow. Peerless was a respected make that offered this engine in a
production car for 3 seasons. It deserves recognition for this accomplishment
and history is best served when we honor all the facts available to us. The
Peerless Model 60-6 had 824.7 cubic inches.
Tony
Ken,
May your New Year be filled with Pierce-Arrow moments and I hope our
paths cross soon.
Tony
Donna & Dave White,
I have enough snow to share some with you. My antique cars are fresh
frozen for now I’m in the process of inventing electric underwear. Would
you mind wearing them for test purposes?
Tony
David,
The top was done 15 years ago.
Tony
I purchased a 1930 Model A Standard Phaeton (4 door). The previous owner
restored it and didn’t care about money. He had one of the best West Coast
Pebble Beach upholsterers do it (Niminic).At first he said, “I don’t do
Fords”. The restorer said,” I spent $100,000 with you last year and I
insist you do this Ford”. Niminic said, “alright, but I will do it to my
standards and you will pay $6,500″. I have zero chance of having Niminic
do repairs or replacement, so I’ve never had the top down and I’m very
careful.
Jim,
The price I quoted was less than a friend paid at a restoration shop for
a correct top (lined), rug and diamond tufted done in leather, on a teens
38HP. You just can’t go to an upholsterer and expect that they have the
skill, knowledge and experience to perform a job on an early Pierce
that will improve its value. The same can be said about newer ones but
they should be easier than the diamond tufted ones. Closed cars should be
a lot less. Headliners should be a lot less than preparing bows, the
purchase of the top material and lining material. and the labor to
install them, not to mention any metal plating needed. Mr. Coco is an
expert and if you kindly ask him, he may give you a ballpark figure
that I would be ill-equipped to offer. Who is your upholsterer in Reno?
Did you consult the National Auto Museum curator as to which upholsterer
he would recommend?
I love your selection for making your card beautiful. You may give Santa
a hernia though. Did the elves paint it red? You’ve got one of rare ones
there. Don’t let the reindeers play with it. Merry Christmas!
I believe Hirsch passed away this year at around 90. He was still involved
in his business though not in a full time capacity.
I’m not known for being correct, but $50,000 might get it done on the left
coast. You might wait on a list for some time before a top notch upholsterer
could accommodate you.
How do fork and blade engines get away with the surfaces that they used for
bearings and how do they rebuild them? Did they wear out faster than standard
bearing cars. Lincoln was noted for quality. Why did they choose to go with
fork and blade?
Wouldn’t it be great to be able to have a tech session with the P-A
engineer who decided to introduce ball bearing spring shackles without
the ability to lubricate them easily? How could he justify that decision?
Throw in some original owner’s with their approach to the problem. I know
labor was cheap back then, but really! Did the attempt to make the easiest
riding car end up being an early attempt at planned obsolescence? Trade
your low mileage P-A in on a new one before you have to service those
shackles? I bet that meeting would be packed. I think some Studebaker
President owners would crash that meeting, too.
You’ve got to love Marvel Mystery Oil, a brand approaching 100 years old,
for lubricating those hard to reach spaces that are getting starved due to
our penchant for rebuilding old engines tight and with modern parts.
Scott,
Have you sold your Packard yet?
Tony C.
