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The Meet was GREAT, the participants were BETTER and the scenery was not bad either.

Peter

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David,

Good Choice!

Now let’s see how it runs with those plugs.

Peter

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Yeah Jak,

It is about time you got it right!

I guess that they do things differently Down Under in OZ!

Peter

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As Calvin pointed out,the cars that MAY have problems with low ZDDP are not our Pierce-Arrow cars, but 60s cars with high pressure valve springs and flat tappets. We have lovely, well engineered roller lifters, not push rods, etc. Also, as Calvin pointed out, the jury is out on how much damage the new oils will do to the 60s cars.

You should be fine with whatever top quality oil you put in your top quality car (Pierce-Arrow), and if you are at all concerned, go with the Shell Rotella Diesel, as the specs for diesel engines (oil burners) is much more stringent than for gas burners. There is no need for additives and the big advantage of using Shell Rotella is that you don’t have to worry about whether you using the correct oil.

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Shell Rotella oil is a very good oil for our Pierce-Arrow cars, as is Castrol GTX.

In addition, so is any good grade diesel engine oil.

I am sure that other members will also chime in on this matter.

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Bravo, Chris! Bravo George!

Best to two Superb Pierce-Arrow Gentlemen.

Peter

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WOW!

A lovely style, but it is kind of YELLOW, do you think!

Need sunglasses to look at that puppy.

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Hello David,

I ran this ad in the Emporium a few weeks / months ago.

I bought one of the heads for my Series 80 as a spare and it looks good. Note that the head for the Series 80 is essentially the same as for the Series 81. The material cast iron (80), vs. aluminum (late 80, 81) is different and the Series 81 may have had a slightly shaved head for more compression.

However, Call Randy and see what he can do for you.

Best regards,

Peter

A long lost friend is producing aluminum cylinder heads for Series 80 / 81 cars. The price is $2,100.00. He also has heads for 8 & 12 cylinder Pierce-Arrow engines. I assume the quality is excellent and I bought one as a spare. If you have interest, contact him at: [email protected] or @ 585-943-6596.

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Hello Neil,

There is such a bolt being offered on EBAY as I write this message.

The item number is: 281075998091.

It states that it is for a 29 – 30, but it sure looks like what you are looking for and it is now at $10.00 plus $6.95 S&H, with NO BIDDERS.

It is slightly different, but not very much.

I would say it is a deal, considering a machine shop would hit you up for at least $100.

You might want to contact the seller and see if he will end the auction early for a price.

I hope that it will work for you.

Good hunting,

Peter

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I sent an email yesterday instructing the OneStopMotors.com Customer Service to remove all reference to the Pierce-Arrow Society from the advertising of the Franken-Pierce.

I did point out that the PAS endorses NOTHING, especially HIGHLY questionable vehicles such as the one they have displayed.

If that does not work, we will loose the castle dogs, err, I mean the Attorneys.

As of this writing, the Franken-Pierce web listing has not been edited.

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See URL

http://www.onestopmotors.com/used-vehicle-for-sale/Classic-Cars/Pierce-Arrow

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Merlin and Jane ROCK! Another great Winter Meet hosted by the Best from Louisiana.

We all had great fun, great food and great Pierce-Arrow cars to view.

Did I forget, great Forestry 101! Lots of trees to see.

Many thanks to you, Merlin & Jane.

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Hello Tim,

The Series 80 Coach was the lesser expensive of the two sub-models of the Series 80s. The other is the De Luxe, which sold for a premium of approximately 15%. The most noticeable exterior distinction between the Coach and the De Luxe is that the De Luxe has a radius on the rear perimeter of the rear side window. Also, the rear roof line on the De Luxe has more of a radius than does the Coach. In both cases cited above, the Coach has squared features.

In addition to the features mentioned above, the De Luxe had as superior level of finish on the interior and exterior (mahogany versus painted steel interior window surrounds, paint color availability, etc.). I believe I have seen Coach Series 80s with four (4) lug wheels, were as I have only seen six (6) lugs on De Luxe Series 80s.

Regarding your question on distinctions between the Sedan, Club Brougham, etc., The Sedan and Club Brougham are different body styles, with the Sedan being a four (4) door and the Club Brougham being a two (2) door with large front doors and a generous rear seating section. If it were a smaller rear section, it would be a Coupe.

I believe that the Series 80 offerings in 1926 included the following; 5-passenger two-door Coach (yours), 5-passenger four-door Coach and De Luxe Sedan, 7-passenger four-door Coach and De Luxe Sedan, Coach & De Luxe 7-passenger Enclosed Drive Limousine, De Luxe Touring in 5 & 7 passenger, De Luxe 4-passenger Coupe and De Luxe Runabout. I have not SEEN advertisements for a Series 80 Club Brougham.

I may be wrong on some of this, but I believe that the info is credible. Other members will comment as to its accuracy

Good luck on learning about you fine, Pierce-Arrow.

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Carl,

I attach the article that Leo mentioned above.

It sounds like you are having good luck without making a nice 6-volt into an unnecessary 12-volt.

Peter

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As Society members, we are here to help each other.

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Here we go with more info.

If you buy the Optima 6v red tops on Amazon, there is a seller offering them at about $115 each, free shipping.

That is a LOT less than the cost of finding a better starter plus the rebuild cost.

Do what the other guys suggested and you will be cruising.

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All of the other comments are great.

Last yea, Arnold Romberg, our stupendous Editor for the Service Bulletin published a SB that walked us through hooking up two Optima 6v batteries in parallel (SB-11-2).

I will send you a copy of the SB.

The Optima batteries are expensive, but they will last much longer than standard led-acid batteries.

They are also easier to find than a 6v Delco 497 starter (including rebuild costs).

Good luck on this problem.

Peter

PS: Don’t Convert!

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BUDD wheels are currently manufactured and available used, or at least that is what I can determine.

Check out EBAY or just search online.

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Hi Mike,

The SB mentioned by Leo is on the way! via separate email!

Happy wrenching!

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It is with sadness that we mark Eric’s passing. My exposure was limited to exchanges at MODOC tours, but I was aware that his contributions to the Society were noteworthy. Ave atque vale!

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