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Jim, there was quite a discussion about the rubber floor mats not too long ago.

A search should bring up the old thread as there was a discussion about the floor mats from ’29 to ’33 or ’34 I believe.

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I have a water jacket that is not correct for my ’29 but I do not know when the change was made to the water jacket to relocate the water inlet just a little bit further back.

If someone can chime in on whether it would fit your ’30, or if you know if it would fit your car, I have one.

And you’re not all that far away, I could deliver it.

Would be a good excuse to stop and have some Phil’s BBQ.

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Since the Optima red top is a standard AGM battery it does not tolerate being flattened or run very low.

They also do not tolerate being overcharged for extended periods.

I first installed an Optima red top in my ’29 back in 2006.

It was still working fine when I replaced it 7 years later but given its age I replaced it anyway.

I now keep the old one as a spare and it still holds a charge just fine and starts the occasional project car here and there.

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Our Pierce hasn’t been out and about with a front plate since the late 70’s.

In Calif you are required to have both plates but the front plate sits in the trunk and goes along for the ride.

Our Rickenbacker hasn’t had a front plate on it for at least the last 50 years though we do now have 2 YOM plates for the car.

The police have never once asked about it and we have never been stopped by the police.

I say just run with the rear plate and keep the other plate with you just in case.

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I like the round lights on Richard’s car as well.

They are understated and for me could definitely have been a factory light with the larger light going on the longer wheelbase car.

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Peter, I guess lots of things about Richard’s car stood out to me as I have a ’29 so I am always interested in all the little differences between the various body styles and models.

Heck, mid year changes make it a challenge to keep everything straight.

If Ricard added those accents, it’s not necessarily a bad thing, I just like to try and keep things straight in my own mind as to what is factory correct.

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Is this Richard’s car before he started work on it?

If so, I see no step light, no spears and no step plates.

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I found another thread that has a better picture of the running board lights on Richard’s ’29 133.

It can be found as the first picture in the threat titled – Sneak peek at the 29 DC phaeton.

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you can see round step lamps on Richard’s car in the thread – A Few More Pics 29 DC Phaeton

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I seem to remember seeing round step lamps on the ’29 133 that Richard LeRoy is restoring.

I’ll have to go back through his thread with pictures and look.

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My ’29 143 ED Limo has the rectangular step lamp.

Rectangular with rounded edges.

My car was sold Nov of ’29.

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Having an evacuation plan is a good idea.

During the Holy fire I made plans to have my Pierce moved out of harm’s way should we need to evacuate.

Our neighborhood was right on the edge of the evacuation areas and we would have been next had the fire started jumping houses.

I still find ash around my yard here and there.

When you really sit down and figure things out, it’s amazing what you find you can just leave behind and what you would actually take should the need arise.

Stay safe, and have people lined up to move your cars should the need arise.

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Nice article about the cars and Ms. Leigh.

Her book should be an interesting read when it comes out.

One thing I wonder about it is where did the author get the average values from?

Sure, some of the teens cars bring $250k but the bulk of Pierce cars out there don’t bring anywhere near that much.

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It will bet interesting to see what John has come up with.

Whatever it is, we all know it will run perfect once John does his magic to the car.

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I think our ’29 looks very presentable given the age of the paint.

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Dave, for a lot of years it kind of bothered my father that he never had our Pierce restored.

He even commented as such to another member at the 2006 Oregon meet.

The other member told my father to leave it alone and just maintain its originality. He also said, you can restore a car a hundred times, but it’s only original once.

For a long time our car was overlooked at some shows since the paint isn’t perfect and the front seat is worn.

But now it gets lots of attention with plenty of people telling us to just preserve it.

Times and attitudes change.

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FYI

I had to remove the first http:// form the link to get it to work.

Ad claims that the car was at a PAS National Meet and toured at the meet.

If so then a whole lot of PAS members would have seen the car.

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Ken, that one looks like it leans forward enough that the tail feathers don’t get in the way when you open the hood.

Especially since the picture was taken with the hood up.

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Calif gets every last dime out of you they can.

Both prewar cars were around $140 this year.

I remember when my ’64 Malibu was $35.

The good ol days.

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I have only seen them pointed straight ahead.

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