She’s hesitant to ship, we have a tentative deal based on her figuring that out, yes, easy to bring to a UPS store and have them box and ship, told her so, but she’s still on the fence about it. Will let you know if it works out, thanks Richard for lead!!
Great to hear of this car being passed down in the family and displayed appropriately.
A number of years ago I saw the car at Rhinebeck, and contacted Andrew King, a friend, about the car. The King family worked side by side with Cole Palen, and Andrew is an astounding pilot of anything older with wings, his father was a regular pilot with Cole.
He soon came back to me and told me no, it’s not for sale, family owned and likely to stay that way.
Obviously, that’s a wonderful thing, and glad to hear the rest of the story to date!
I’ve contacted the antique mall where this wagon is located, the dealer is supposed to call me, if I can’t get a substantial reduction and make a deal will let you know the details….
I apologize if my comments on metallic offended anyone. For some reason it’s a personal hot button, and I’m outspoken by nature.
A yellow polka dot Pierce is still a fine car! And I know that there are some nice cars out there that look good with metallic…(and bright colors, Ed!)
Shame on them for calling your car a circus wagon just because it’s a little flaky.
I believe the correct nomenclature from the Pierce Art Department would have been “Brothel Blue””……..”
I posted pics under your “29 dc phaeton” thread of both an engraved spotlight, and two badges similar to what Tony posted. Although the picture makes them look two shades of color, they’re both identical. I’d sell one, don’t know if it’s real or repop, send me an email at [email protected] if interested, $75 and I’ll pay postage.
The 836 was and attempt to build an “entry level” car, had stamped grill instead of louvers in front of radiator, and I believe no louvers in the hood was standard.
I’d be much more concerned about the car having a 217 cubic inch 6 cylinder engine, as stated in ad….hopefully the written ad is incorrect, otherwise someone figured that it was easier to drop what would seem to be a Mopar six in the car instead of rebuilding original engine…
First, please don’t paint your car with metallic paint. It just won’t look correct, regardless of when such paint was “available”. This is personal opinion, and I’m sure some may disagree, but I’ve seen some Classics painted with metallic, and it’s like a slap in the face, just not right.
Second, my understanding is that the metallics that WERE available early on were very subtle, not the obvious big flakes you see on a lot of custom cars.
Third, remember that this is a Pierce Arrow, from a company that was fairly conservative in it’s art and color department. Yes, there may have been a few flashy cars, but as a rule Pierce stayed toward conservative color combinations.
I think the first thing you should do is inventory what you have, and what is missing.
From that inventory, research what is available in reproduction parts. If you can buy hubcaps, door handles, hood latch handles, and so forth in nice reproductions, you’ll be money ahead in the long run.
Then, as Ed states, you need to decide whether you want (as one plating shop owner explained to me) “factory” chrome or “show” chrome. For example, the radiator shell in factory chrome is very nice, but may show some very slight manufacturing ripples. Show chrome eliminates that. When I did the shell for my ’31 phaeton about 10 years ago, the difference was $500 and $1200 for the shell alone.
I would have said $25K to $30K for chrome on that car, but Ed has done more things recently so I’d trust his numbers.
That’s a great car you have, but resign yourself now to the fact that you’ll have more cost in the purchase/restoration than the car will be worth. With a professional restoration and the current cost chrome, paint, upholstery, and labor, if you’d been given the car free you might still end up in the same situation. Passion for owning such a car often transcends the dollars, of course….
Best of luck with the car, it’ll be a beauty when done….
I agree, Ed, car is better looking without a trunk…but a place to carry a water container, gas can,fire extinguishers….sure comes in handy…and I think the looks are OK with the trunk tight to the body
Oh, and by the way, the mounting for my rack is not factory, the original mounting sticks it behind this bumper, and in fact I think there may have been accessory bumpers that extended further back. I made a couple of brackets for the front mounts and sucked the rack in closer to the body, keeping the back of it within the standard bumper limits. I personally like the look of it where it is now. But, it is not original.
The nameplate, a little far gone but readable….
The trunk on my car is a Steel Kraft, I’ll attach a couple of pictures. While it didn’t come with the car, I’ve been told this is a brand of trunk Pierce used. I was at White Post Restorations one day when a phone call came in, Billy Thompson asked if anyone wanted a car trunk, a lady had called from Winchester and had taken one out of her attic. I went and looked at trunk and gladly gave the $100 asking price. I was amazed when it was a perfect fit to my 31 trunk rack, and when I say perfect, I mean it’s within 1/4 inch or so all the way around…
I figured it was 1920 or so, thanks for the information…I realize the flashier newer ones are worth more…but think the earlier ones are harder to find, another case where rare does not mean valuable. Somewhere I think I have a print ad for this pedal car, but don’t remember the maker either…
another picture
So, while we have the experts assembled on pedal cars, what’s this one worth? I bought it at a local auction quite a few years ago….
Running board box an add on, not from the factory. I’m not sure what you mean by luggage gates. If you’re talking about a luggage rack, that came from the factory and the customer would add a trunk. If you’re talking about the accordion style “gate” that clamps to a running board, that was a common accessory sold after-market, not a factory option. It’s not usually seen on a Classic car such as the Pierce.
I agree… I just bought an instrument panel, white face with gas/speedo/amp and oil, but again, clock missing….guess people took them out and used them in the house??
Nice website…but, as is oft said, a customer could request different color schemes, and I’d say even factory “standard” colors aren’t written in stone..my ’31 phaeton was originally dark green body, light brown fenders and mouldings..I have a picture taken in 1959 of the car in original paint and that was it….one thing is fairly constant, I would think, for Pierce colors, they were tasteful and usually subdued..if someone requested a garish paint job, I believe that Pierce management would have tried to talk them out of it….but of course, money talked just as loud then as it does now..
Here’s the picture of the badges, real or repop?