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It has nothing to do with the car on the above post, I was contacted about a missing car eight or nine months ago, and was asked not to disclose the information. The car is a known car in the Society, and I just don’t want any members having a problem with a purchase. Recently a west coast member was a victim of a car scam, and he did his homework before making the purchase. Just last week, a Pierce was listed for sale on the internet that didn’t belong to the person, they were using old on line images. It’s getting asinine with the amount of fraud, seems like old car people are trustworthy and often taken advantage of. Also, another member was taken for a significant sum a while back, but they also asked not to be named. The car in question has the owners, lawyers, and law enforcement looking for it. I think the V-12 description should be enough and anyone can contact me about a purchase. I will NOT disclose the missing car, as I gave my word that I wouldn’t.

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Sorry they are sideways………..

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Some photos of the contents of the national service data books…

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I agree with Geroge’ Comments 100 percent. I took me twenty five years of looking to locate the 1929 first edition, and it’s the only one I have ever seen. I bought it from a rare book dealer, who commented to me “that’s the rarest automotive service book I have ever sold.” I agreed with him…………National Service Manuel’s from 1935 and later are common, and very good ones should run 150 dollars or less. Go earlier and they get expensive. Most people who only have one car really only need a copy of their one to three pages. The books are heavy and can be hard to use. In the shop I take photos of the page with my camera phone, and print it out enlarged as I can’t see as well as I once could. Also helps thr books clean and less likely to tear.

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I have the earlier version that runs from 1910 to 1926, and it has all the stuff in it you could imagine……..Knox, Cole, Simplex, if you can name it, it’s in there. Ed

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Greg, here is an answer to your question.

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Pierce Arrow sold a Purolator add on filter through all the dealerships for the early eight cars that did not come with them from the factory. The kit was a filter, fittings, brackets, and lines. They were offered sometime in 1930, and somewhere in my papers I have an original copy of the factory paperwork on them. Ed

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No service manuals were ever made. Parts list catalogs can sometimes be helpful. That’s half the fun of a Pierce. You have to figure it out yourself. This board is better than anything that ever has been published. Any question or problem is always cheerfully answered by many members. Ed

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All you need for driving lessons with me on the track is a bottle of Valium and a few sets of clean underwear.

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I didn’t comment on it in detail as I wasn’t sure if it was member owned. I see lots of issues.

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Karl……our shop motto is….”drive it like you stole it!”””

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Barn find is the new modern term for cars that the owners are too lazy to wash………for the past twenty or thirty years.

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Look close, and inspect the car in person. Always the best advice.

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They are interesting cars, very well built. More like an aircraft than a conventional car. And Peter is correct, they are ugly. They are also good drivers, and very comfortable.

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I will be at Amelia Concours, so if a member would like help going over the car just give me a call. Ed

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I have seen and laid my hands on the Quam car, and lots of issues is an understatement. In 1993 it was also in a major accident. I didn’t think much of the car before the accident, and even less afterwards. I offered 35k for the car about five years ago, and they thought I was crazy, and that it was worth 300k. I think it was high bid to 90 or so at a past auction, then I was told the bid was run up to 175 by someone(shill bidder?) in the room………still a no sale. The 90 and 175 numbers were told to me by someone at the sale, not sure of how accurate. Anyways, it’s a rare and neat car, but no one should buy it without sending an expert to look it over. I know what I think it needs……….and the most correct term that is fair is “a very extensive restoration””.”

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Greg and Craig are correct. Also, don’t assume the carburetor you have is set up correctly. You can burn the valves and melt a piston if you run it incorrectly. If you shop doesn’t have a five gas exhaust analyzer to check on the burn your taking a big chance with a fresh engine.

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