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They were factory installed (whip) in 1936 and 1937.

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It needs a lots…….missing the correct wipers, wrong lenses in the lights, driver door falling off, the car was a 70’s repaint and then it was driven 55 thousand miles by the last two owners. Paint is poor, leather is not correct, don’t get me wrong….I like the car and it is real, just that it needs a total do over. My best guess was 30k just to get it patched up to be able to use it as is. That’s 450 for a very old and tired car that’s never had a total restoration.

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Richard, be sure not to miss the meet this summer. We will give you some Pierce Arrow driving pointers. Back east our motto is “Drive it like you stole it!”””

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Ken has been providing very good care for John the last few years. We should all be thankful of the kindness offered to us by our fellow PAS members. The club is not about cars, it’s all about the people. My best to all. Ed.

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Factory mufflers were stright through from the several that I have seen. I suspect that as the year progressed they could have changed suppliers or styles. It’s just a muffler after all. I am sure all I have seen are the doubble wrapped style.

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Please post year and series as well as photos. The radio’s built for the car and sold by the factory are not the only ones that fit the car.

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That’s the C harlie Chaplin touring car. It went for sale early in the year but didn’t bring the big money the owners expected.

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Interestingly, my car had come with chrome wire wheels, they were painted brown in an effort to save money on the restoration. I would liked to have done them in chrome, but the 16 thousand dollar price was too steep for me. I think this is a good example on how tire, wheel, and other options can drastically change how a car looks. The trunk is a factory supplied trunk that was on the car in 1952. All the chrome spears look rather busy and I was planning to remove them, but they too were on the car when it was placed in the junk yard during the war. Thus they remain. I almost forgot, I just bought some side mount covers for the 32, they won’t have the mirrors on them, as the ruin the hood lines.

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With the new tires and painted wheels.

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Here is a shot of my 32 Series 54 coupe. I don’t care for the trunk or the single stationary trip light on the car. I bought the car with them on it, if I ever removed them for service or repair I would NOT install them again. I leave them on it to remember and honor the man who took the car out of the junk yard and brought the car home to restore. Even though he’s passed on more than 10 years, I think it’s a nice tribute to leave it the way it is until the next caretaker has the car. I am a purist as is Dave Coco. I like the factory lines unbroken with out a bunch of add on’s. When my car needed tires, I changed the paint colors on the wheels and went to white walls. I also made the missing trim rings for the wheels. It looks 200 percent better. But I didn’t alter the lines. Just my thoughts and taste. I welcome all comments both positive or negative. Ed.

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My “ARROW BLUE”” Pierce.”

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Richard, I only post as a basis for information. I restore my cars as I please. My 36 V-12 has several non authentic things on it that it would never had been placed on it when new, or used. I put them on for myself. I encourage everyone to do the same also. I post only for a foundation of information. If you do judge, extra lights just means more bulbs to burn out or have a bad ground, possibly causing point loss. Posted below is my 36 V-12 club sedan. Most like the color, some say it’s terrible. I still like it 20 years later. I think it’s safe to say not one single PAS member would ever post here to offend or disparage a car or an owners choice on restoration. I have enjoyed all the posting lately, much about your car has expanded to other posts. I hope they continue. All my best, Ed.

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I admit I agree with Dave Coco on the light. I also would not install the other lights. They were not available in 29,30,31, or 32. As a matter of fact, no car when new was delivered with trip lights from the factory or dealer until late 33 according to some experts who did fairly extensive research on the subject. If I remember correctly only two or three cars have had them documented when new. I have never seen a set of them that I am convinced are pre war, never mind factory or dealer installed. They are rapidly becoming a no-no at Pebble and other concours. There’s lots of them for sale now, and they are much less valuable than they used to be. I like the clean looks of a factory car. Too much junk and bling are out of place in the 29 to 38 era. I also think the lights are going to be challenged when judging the car in the future. Without documentation the lights could be a heavy deduction. Just my two cents.

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PS Robert, that car is one of several very nice Pierce V-12 owned by member Sam Lehrman. It is a 1935 Chicago Auto Show car. Below is a photo taken in February 1935 at the show. The car was a bright canary yellow.

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Any PAS member who is in Western Mass is invited to stop by may garage and take one of my cars for a spin. John Cislak is less than 5 miles away and often has several Pierce Arrow’s under repair or restoration. You have never seen piles of Pierce stuff until you visit him. Currently I have a 1936 V-12 and a 1932 eight registered and running. Stop by and go for a drive, cars are only fun when you drive and share them. My best to all. Ed.

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Robert, as I am sure you have noticed, Pierce open cars can be quite expensive. Pierce open cars from 1929 and 1930 come up for sale once in a while. By 1931, open cars get much more scarce. From 32 and later, they seldom change hands. Many times they are spoken for years in advance. Then when you start talking a V-12, it can be a budget buster. A 32 V-12 sold at the Hershey auction in October for 407 thousand. It had quite a bit wrong with it, incorrect and missing parts, and it was a 35 year old restoration with 55 thousand miles on it. Recently a 34 V-12 needing a fair amount of work sold for over 500 K. An eight can be bought for less, but they also seldom change hands. I don’t post this to discourage you, but just as a bit of information where they are trading at now. There is a very nice 29 for sale on cape cod in the 140’s. Also, there are several fake or cut down cars out there. One currently for sale by a dealer. You should hire someone who know’s Pierce cars before you purchase ANY open car. Welcome to the club. See you in Buffalo. Ed

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I like it, thanks for posting.

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