The Lorraine spotlight on my 1931 phaeton has no badge, but rather is engraved…see picture…I’ll also post pictures of badges in my collection, I believe they’re repop, showing Pierce…I’m fairly positive my spotlight is original to my car…any thoughts on the badges?
I agree, guess sometimes a dealer with money ready to go is more tempting than marketing it to hobbyists. I do miss the old days when there were less dealers, and most of them even then were trying to save cars, not make a living or killing off them. This seems like a nice car, bet it was a good buy at the price paid by dealer!
OK, thanks for info!
Very cool, think he took drawing lessons from Picasso!!
I’m not interested in the car, and agree wouldn’t buy from such a dealer without a personal inspection. Was just curious about the manifolds and/or engine itself.
Still has to be a rare piece of paper, Walt….I have a fairly good collection of Pierce internal paper forms, and have never heard of this one…..
Has anyone on this forum ever actually received a set of these? I talked to this guy two years ago, and it was the same story then, “sold out, send me deposit and I’ll deliver in a few months when production resumes”….I’d buy a set in a heartbeat if I knew I’d get them…
Greg, you need to find me a Yard Expander, my back yard isn’t big enough!
I am going to be working on a new Region for this (and surrounding) area, so a meet could be a possibility! I do know of some interesting places that could be visited in the surrounding area, filling up touring days would be no problem!
Your PAl, David Coco
I’m going to miss the meet, too…hope y’all have a great time, but know you will!
I used a Narragansett wiring harness set on my 1937 Cord, excellent quality and fit.
I ordered on phone while looking at website, and when it came the invoice was well over the prices listed on the website. I settled with them, but make sure if you use these guys to ask about price updates.
Very nice presentation by Chris, and as mentioned what a great resource, so glad that Bernie and the Society kept this together and in a place where it will be saved and used……bravo!
I have some files of correspondence between Pierce and a local (Buffalo) machine shop, discussing tools and parts to be made, or made, this would be a good home for those files also, after my estate sale!
I would urge anyone with out of the ordinary Pierce literature to consider this option also….
Nice! There’s almost a car there…..
Here is the fabric picture that I thought was going to post in the previous post….
Attached is a picture when I was trying to match original Pantasote material….what you see on the right side of the photograph is original Pantasote. This material was made by laying a water resistant coating on fabric. The random pattern you see is partly the fabric showing through, partly the uneven coating, and partly age, although the top material of that particular top was very well preserved. If Eric can duplicate the look of that material, I would be very interested, as it’s correct for so many early tops and top inserts. I worked with Eric to make a replicated Pantasote with a whipcord backing, but his guys were still not able to really get the true look of the original. He took some grained top material, and “melted” and restamped the surface with a smoother pattern; a happy circumstance was that in the right light some of the original grain could be seen, which was similar to the fabric grain you’d see on original material. The second picture shows the two early tops I did with this material.
Eric is a great resource for us early car guys, he helped me tremendously getting a period correct fabric for some very early tops, even to the point where he “restamped” the surface on 40 yards of special material. A lot of the discussion was about Pantasote, which was widely used in the teens and twenties. To my knowledge and research, there is no exact current match to that original material, what is called “replicated Pantasote” is basically a vinyl material. By the 1930’s, vinyl was in use (it was “invented” in the 1920’s), so a light grain vinyl top would not be out of place.
On a side note, the insert top was wood slats, chicken wire, padding, and top….on the 1935 coupe which I owned a while back, the chicken wire was the antenna for the radio, isolated from the top metal and only touching the wood…..
I believe the 1932 that Steve mentions was the one restored by B.B. Crump of Baton Rouge. It lived on the Gulf coast in Mississippi for a while, I had a chance to buy it, but not enough resources at the time to restore it. I never liked the bracket headlights, it seems to steal the soul of the Pierce, the distinctive fender headlights make the rest of the styling come alive in some manner….
That’s a handsome car in beautiful shape, let us know when you get it home!!
It was Lionel Stone, but I understand now that he had a serious truck accident about 5 years ago, so don’t think that source is available. At one time he cast some bronze oil pump housings for the Studebaker Presidents, and with a little bit of work they could be made to fit a Pierce application.
Bob, I have a box of old Pierce oil pumps somewhere, if you can’t find a source we can dig through it and see if anything is usable….
There are a LOT of different types of stainless, it’s not just one alloy…..and I think that might be the issue…I know this from years in the food processing business, when different alloys can really get one in trouble…..304, 316, 304L (low carbon), and so forth.. stainless is actually a soft metal, but it work hardens quickly on the surface, so anyone cutting stainless with a short tooth saw thinks “wow, hard”, when actually you need to cut UNDER the work hardened surface…so a shaft that’s not prepared correctly, or from the correct alloy, for a water pump won’t corrode, but it may wear quickly…
No, Harrah just owned it, it was apparently built in the 1930’s, a custom car…