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Bill, they look like they may have been made by Dayton Wheel. They were the supplier for my 1921 Pierce truck wheels. It could be a “prototype”” steel wheel they made for Pierce. They would be heavy! Karl”

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Bill, My warnings are to help others to be very careful how they spend money. The location has not changed, Val Blaser worked for “Empire” he will most likely work for Paramount. You can see Ed Minnie’s exhaust manifold patterns shown on Empires web site. It makes you think you can order exhaust manifolds today for a 30-31 Pierce. Ask Charlie Sando and 2 other Pierce members what they got for there $3k each investments. I can tell you that another good friend has sent them 19k for pattern work and has the same results, no pattern, and not a casting made. Ray is not the “New” Pres. of Paramount Pattern. Rebecca Perriguey is shown as DIRECTOR and PRESIDENT at Paramount Patterns, Inc. El Paso, TX. I do not have any current dealings with Paramount, I am just trying to keep the membership updated to the ongoing business “location”. I am glad you got your part. Karl

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Engineer Mary adjusting the clearance of the “trailer trash”” so the long body of the “”Goose”” can pass on the corner…”

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Pierce Arrow Galloping Goose #2 under the Christmas tree

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My winter project. Get the mechanics and paint ready for 2011 touring. Six new tires, paint 6 wire wheels, valve adjustment, tune up and making the 1929 coupe shine. This 40 year old paint is getting a much needed polishing. The paint was never wet sanded or buffed… until now. (My 30 Model C wheel is in the spare just to check fit of the 650/19’s in the wells before I order a set for this car.) More later, Karl

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Update on 21 Pierce truck: I spent two hours at the AACA Library on Friday trying to make sure I own a 1921 truck. The Pierce collection contained the same owners manual, same date, and page count as I have except for a red cover, not green like mine. I took the vin. number to see if I could confirm the 1921 date shown on my title. Well… the years still 1921, however the parts book showed it as a R10 5 ton truck not a X-5 5 ton. I re-checked my delco book and all parts on my want list remain the same as before. I also will need a headgasket if anyone has an extra for sale. Fitzgerald no. 298 or 298HD. Pierce #T86800. I compaired page after page of the parts book and see no changes from the X-5 to R10 except for the engine, after engine number 800 the X-5 and all R10s have a different headgasket making me wonder what changes were made to the cooling system or piston dispacement? More later. Karl

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Please check your extra parts pile for the following rebuildable items I need for this truck:

Delco Starter #202

Delco Generator #201

This uses Distributor #5225, looking for 2 dist. caps (4cyl.) and point sets for the same. I can email photos or drawings of items.

Thanks, Karl

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Front and rear wheels measure three feet tall, Truck is 8’6″ tall at center of cab, from front bumper to end of frame rail: 19’6″ long. Karl

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Since most of us Pierce owners have never seen a Pierce truck… Thanks to all who have contacted me here and by e-mail about my new toy and give me words of encougagement. The photo I posted does not give you a good idea of just how big everything is on this truck.I now have an owners manual, and would like to share a few specs. with you from this booklet.

Cooling system: 14 gallons

Gas tank (under the seat): 25 gallons

Rear axle: 7 quarts

engine oil; 17 pints

Trans.: 1 gallon

Warranty: 90 days! and does not cover: Tires, rims, ignition, horn, starter, generators, batteries, and speedometers

A 1927 scale book came with the truck(with dump bed), now gone, empty weight 13,200 pounds! The average weight gross was 29,000 lbs. (just a few ton over the rated 5 ton at 16 mph shown on the frame data plate.

More later. Karl

Still need above parts

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Series 33 jacks: ser#1-338000: to late 1923, Rees #1 or 5A. Ser#338001 on: late 1923-25 Morrison #2. Karl

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The other side, Karl

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Paul, this is a photo of a Duff Truck jack in my collection. It has the same made for Pierce tag used on later Reese and Morrison jacks, but the tag is about 1/3 larger in size. I dont have any info showing when Pierce stopped using this jack. It must weigh 40 pounds! Karl

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Paul, The Duff is correct for Series 3,4 and 5. I agree with most of the other info you provide for your other jacks. One correction,the Morrison #1 ends with Series 80. Karl

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Both items have been found, Thanks to everyone who helped. Karl

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I still need this lean rich control and a horn Button. Attached is a front view of the lever and plate. Does anyone else need one? I would look into making some if there is a need for more than one. I have had a good working relationship with a foundry and machine shop, and would like to borrow one if that would be possible. Check out my other completed projects on the Emporium. Thanks, Karl

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I boxed up a tool roll, looks like $5.70 will ship one priority mail to anyone here in the US. Thanks, Karl

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Bill, thanks for the photo. The tool roll you own is the same roll I am working on reproducing and will have for sale. I was able to borrow one for the project from a 1925 Series 80 Roadster. The material was green duck cloth, not tan as your bag but identical in construction. I then photographed a 1927 Series 80 coach kit from an other low mile car, this roll is in the same tan clothe as in your photograph. My first run of bags will be some of each color. The bags are cut, sewn, and binding installed. I am waiting for a call from the leather shop and they are ready to go. I can not confirm that the 8 or 12 cylinder cars continued to use this roll, however the Fairmont tool Co. was still the preferred source. Maybe we can find someone who can give us a photo from a low mile 1930’s car tool kit. Karl

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