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Patrick,

I find the comments in this, and the cited previous discussions, confusing. First, you should have found that the battery terminals could not easily be interchanged. The positive terminal is larger than the negative on all dry/wet automotive batteries.

Secondly, if the generator has been changed to a negative ground unit, the coils must have been changed too. Coils are designed to be either pos gnd or neg gdn, not both. They will function with reversed polarity, but at reduced efficiency, and may cause plug firing issues.

Thirdly, one does not need a second wire to power any component in either pos gnd or neg gnd systems. The frame was the original second conductor in both cases.

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Relax kids. The most common radioisotope of Polonium is Po-210. It is an alpha particle emitter with a half life of 140 days. That means that its decay to harmless levels takes only four years. Even when new Po-210 is harmless unless it is ingested, i.e. ground up and swallowed or inhaled. Seems unlikely for sparkplug electrodes.

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David,

I hope you noted that 1703 is Seagrave powered.

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For David: I cannot see a good reason not to retain the OEM brake system, just like we do not “upgrade”” any old car system. Keep it original.

For Stu: I see several major “”authenticity”” problems in the pics of the 1703 – like Segrave!

For all: I would like to find info on OEM Pierce car hitch for the Travelodge and info on the OEM connection to the Pierce brake vacuum system. Any help available out there?”

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My guess is that it is not unlocked and the 1/2″ movement is the bending of the latch. When unlocked there is no reason that the cap will not tip out for removal. Check the movement of the keyed latch again.”

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Stainless systems that I have seen are thinner gauge than OEM material. That results in a tinny sound; not pleasant.

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The Lock-n-Stitch method is unique. The plugs have an inverse thread profile that pulls the crack together rather than wedging it apart, as tapered threads do when tightening them. I have a sample that is cut in two and the halves are held together by the plug when finger tight! They even sell kits for DIYs.

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Don’t give up on the automatic chokes. After I sorted out the incorrect data noted above, I was able to adjust the chokes for my 1703 and they work properly. Unsure of how they would perform, I built a test stand using a spare carb, a vacuum pump to check the piston operation and a heat gun to warm up the thermostat. They worked consistently on the stand and then on the car. I will share what I learned in the PASB article that I mentioned above.

PS – The data Bill Lyons cites above is essentially the same as that provided in PASB 88-5; both are correct.

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YnZ did the harness for my 1703. Talk to the owner (Gene Zdunowski) about my specific harness. At my request,he routed the horn wires to under the front (vice under the hood), added wires for turn signals and put in a separate grounding wire for each component (lights, horn relay, etc.) rather than relying on chassis ground connections. I also had him put in a wire for an electric fuel pump near the front end of the left rear spring. His original pattern was Eric Rosenau’s 1803, so I had him delete the wiring to the license plate light (center of the trunk lid) – its in the left taillight housing.

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Otto Klausmeyer explained the function of the kick shackle during the August 2, 1968 Technical Session at the 11th Annual Meet in Huntington, Pa (as reported in PASB 68-4). The device is intended to reduce telegraphing a jolt to the steering wheel from the left tire hitting a bump. It allows the left spring to float slightly fore and aft, which it could not do if the front end was fixed like the right side spring. Removing that “kick” to the steering wheel is unrelated to front-end “shimmy”,”wobble” or “wabble”.

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Thanks to a lead from J. Chase, I was able to obtain a copy of the 13th edition of Motor’s Handbook, Specifications,Interchangeable Parts, Service Instructions. As I suspected, PASB 2009-3 provides incorrect information for adjusting the Stromberg automatic chokes on PA’s.The correct info is available in PASB 88-5. I will provide a revised article to Arnold Romberg for a future Bulletin article.

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The 1929 Dyke’s quotes SAE standards that defines a Berline as a sedan with a partition at the rear of the driver’s seat. The 1930 SAE standards omitted the Berline and defined the sedan with a partition as an “Imperial” sedan.

Pierce literature did describe Schmike’s car as a “Club Berline”, and in their 1937 literature described my 1703 EDL as an “Imperial Salon Twelve”.

Hope this helps.

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The 1940 PA listing is an error. The picture is my 1703 (i.e. 1937) 147″ wb running board which an exact repro of the originals which I sent to them. It is beautifully done and cannot be approached in authenticity with any of the continuous extrusions available elsewhere.”

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Take a look at PASB 2013-2, page 8.

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Gents, it is Olson’s vice Olsen’s Gaskets.

Ed’s comment regarding complete sets is incorrect. Sandy has complete sets for most PAs, and all 12’s.

Olson’s also now has Stromberg automatic choke gaskets. I needed a pair for my 1703 and I could find no source for reproduction copper sandwich gaskets. Sandy funded my efforts to reproduce these gaskets and he now has them in inventory.

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You should find a zerk fitting projecting into the wheel well, rather than a spring-loaded oiler cap, if it is OEM. However, that was for oiling the box, not greasing, as indicated by George. I use transmission oil, but any heavy oil would suffice. Oil guns are still available; they are different from grease guns, but use the same zerks.

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You would not be happy with particle board. It is dense and would transmit sound like a speaker cone. Some kind of sound-dampening fiber board would be much better. I used a 1/4″ plywood sandwich with sound-dampening foam between and covered the underside with sheet metal as the original.”

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Dave,

I second your motion. I had an identical problem in 2007 with a Waldron Y-pipe for my 1703. I even talked to him in person at Hershey (along with Bob Dluhy) to no avail. I eventually got a NOS original, but ate the $115.00 Waldron.

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Peter,

Actually, I prefer vises to pedantry.

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John,

How about”cite”the highlights,vice”sight”?

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