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Sheesh, that ’33 is beautiful, although I’m just itching to put a new top on it!
Bill and Aniece were an interesting couple, I used to tour with them on CCCA events. Bill is gone, of course, but Aniece kept quite a few cars, don’t know what she has now, although a friend of mine transports cars for her so she’s apparently somewhat active now.
I remember her telling the story about when they first started dating, and somewhere in the conversation he said that he collected cars “and had a few”. She said she was astounded when she first walked into the collection, having no idea of the extent and quality of his collection at the time.
We’ve struck out with a couple of suppliers, who first said they could make them, and then backed out saying no.
Still looking for someone who can fabricate them at a reasonable cost.
Yes, that’s correct, for some reason I’ve gone years and not known this…!
I now understand this material available from LeBaron Bonney…..
Peter, I think all he had to do was polish the paint a bit…. 
That’s it! I also posted the picture as a test, had no trouble posting, I don’t know size of pictures but I don’t recall having any trouble posting pictures. Would be nice as mentioned to be able to post more than one picture per post….
Peter, it’s almost gotten out of hand. I now have hundreds of items relating to Pierce, from factory and dealer items to items from companies which promoted their use of Pierce Arrow equipment.
And, just when I think I’ve seen it all, something “New” pops up. I’m a serious buyer, although that probably translates to “crazy”….. who out there knows where THIS banner was displayed, and when? This one I know!
That said, there are others with great collections, and I’ve seen many items I dont have. You can’t kiss all the girls!
I don’t see any of this as whining, it’s a discussion of what we have currently and thoughts on changes.
Greg sums it up well, “We do need to proceed, but proceed with caution”.
I further agree that if one really wants to provide “change” input, and not just discuss it as we have here, then contact a member of the BOD. I’m sure they’d appreciate the input….
The banner is from my memorabilia collection, by the way. The letters and arrow are heavy felt, sewn to the pennant. I’d love to know the history of it but have no idea, have had it for a while.
One has to be careful about what is considered progress, or progressive.
I’ve enjoyed for years the Model T Ford Club of America (MTFCA) forum. It was linear, had two places to look, Forum and Classifieds, and was easy to read and see what threads you’d missed.
It was updated and “improved” January 1st of this year. Now, it’s a very tedious task to look at threads and figure out what you want to look at and where you want to be.
I’m sure in someone’s mind it’s an improvement, but in my mind, it makes it a pain to go there, so I go there less.
I’m not against change, just don’t make it a change that makes reading forum more difficult for the casual use…
Usually a headliner is of a lighter material than the seat upholstery. In this context, “lighter” means less heavy. Since the material has to hang, being lighter means that there’s less chance of sagging.
It’s been traditional in closed cars that the headliner was also a lighter (in shade) fabric, so that the car didn’t feel like being in a dark cave.
As far as originality on this car, I can’t comment. The Harrah’s restorations were excellent for the time period, but standards were different and it wasn’t as easy to reach out to owners of similar original cars.
Richard, throwing grease isn’t the problem, and in fact the originals were lubricated with oil that was distributed by centrifugal force. If there’s grease in it, it won’t get to the bearing surfaces correctly.
If a fan hub fails, and they do fail, then expect major damage to occur. The Cislak hubs are cheap insurance, and you never have to worry about them again. I’m running an “original” on my ’31 phaeton, but the fellow who restored it in 1960 reworked the hub in much the same way as Cislak hubs are designed.
And yes, I agree, when you start adding up the number of parts, and thinking that each one had to be designed and made (or specified and bought), it’s amazing that cars could get put together….
I really like the car, and as mentioned bet with just some fairly minor maintenance and new tires would be a great tour car.
The only thing that bothers me is all the green. Now, admittedly, I’ve never been a green fan so that’s personal preference, just wondering if the color would affect the ability to sell the car? Do most people like green cars and I’m the oddball?
The car was displayed at Harrah’s with a Travelodge trailer behind it. Here’s a picture taken in the mid 1980’s, right before the collection was starting to be dispersed.
I know ALL about the ’38 Super Eight block problem, a problem that affects all 1938 blocks but doesn’t seem to be a big issue on earlier and later engines.
That’s why my 1604 convertible coupe now has a ’39 block on the original ’38 crankcase, and I have the rest of the ’39 engine and a complete ’37 engine for spares! Still working on finishing the installation….
That was the rule on the old DC-3 airplane engines, if they weren’t leaking oil, then there was a problem. And then there was the pilot who left the note for the mechanic “Engine #2 missing” and the mechanic left his own note “found it, it’s on the wing”….
I’ve heard tales of tin cans wired up under British cars, to catch the oil, and the mechanic tells the customer “Oil leak fixed, but if it starts again, come back and I’ll fix it for free”…..that is, empty the can out….
I agree, there was a lot of stuff reproduced in the 60’s and 70’s that people now think are original.
Most “early” bulb/reed brass horns you see, for example (the twist kind, not the straight kind), were made new back in the 50’s and 60’s when thousands were sold. Archers were reproduced, even early Pierce meet plaques were made for sale to club members in the 60’s.
I didn’t pay huge bucks for my Fleet Arrow emblem, just wanted it to represent same in collection. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a real one for sale, but I’d surely be interested in finding a real one, as I’m sure this one is reproduction.
Yes, mine is plated. Mine could very well be a reproduction, I’m not specifically aware of any of these being reproduced but it’s almost in too good condition to be an original. See picture. If anyone knows for a fact these were reproduced, please advise. thanks
It may have been said, contact the AACA Library in Hershey and they can copy the parts book for you.
Working for H.P. Hood, a northeast dairy company, I was sent to Sacramento to upgrade the acquired Crystal Cream dairy plant.
My first day there, I made a comment in front of a group “Oh my gosh, all these exposed outside water lines with no heat trace and insulation!”…….they laughed and laughed,……doesn’t freeze in Sacramento!
Wonder what their forecast might be….
