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The convertible sedan was introduced mid year. One like this was for sale at Hershey flea market years ago.
The vehicle is a 1933 836 or 1236 convertible sedan with PA body similar to the Arrow cover car series 85-model 2. Can’t observe small emblems or hubcaps to determine whether 8 or 12. The 1934 convertible sedan that won the Weis trophy has a mix of 1933 and 1934 features and was debated when Ted Case owned the car.
The rear mounted spare tire has a metal cover and has no emblem. The hubcap would identify the make and engine size. The rear mounted spare cars I have observed did not have a rack, as the parts book seems to indicate. The outer edge of the emblem is chrome plated. Maybe the trunk rack mount for a brougham or club sedan would extend out enough for the rear mounted spare tire, since this rack extended out for the trunk space.
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It looks like the engine that was part of D.U. Howard’s collection that was on display and running during the 2000 meet in Boerne, TX
The placement of external horns on a salon 1933 vehicle and on 1934 and 1935 cars appears to be the same (most of us do not have a car from each year). The spacer is 1 5/16″ in thickness, has a curved contour with one large and two smaller holes for mounting drilled through the spacer. With two matched spacers, the horns can be attached to the flexible leaves and the parking light attached to the fender to radiator brackets.
The wheels for 836 or 1236 are the same with a small bead. The wheels for 8 cylinder cars for 34 – 38′ may have the same wheel width as 33′ wheels but the design of the bead is different than from 1933 wheels. The wheels will bolt up in place just fine.
Based on the information in the 1933 parts book, there is no listing for a luggage rack and the associated hardware with a rear mounted spare tire. In pictures and the two cars observed with rear mounted spares there was no luggage rack.
The door handle is on a splined shaft and has a threaded piece that attaches to the handle. Push the upholstery back against the spring (towards the outside of the door) and there are two flats opposite one another. Use a thin 9/16″ wrench and loosen the “bolt” from the threads within the handle. The handle can then be removed. There is no pin.
The window surround has wood screws within the glass weatherstripping that must also be removed. By using a small screw driver, apply some pressure to the side weatherstripping to feel for the metal heads of the screws. These wood screws retain some metal braces from the metal window surround.
The cowl band was applied to all models in 1933 and is NOT part of the additional salon components.
I measured a column length of 40 1/2″ of the exposed tube with an additional amount (1″” ??) that could be inserted in the steering box and then clamped in place. The OD of the tube was 1 3/4″”. On the steering column I measured the top of the tube is exposed without the overlap under the steering wheel.”
there is no ohm measurement on a hydrostatic guage
if there is a replacement gas guage that is 6v electric, then there could be a resistance range to measure 0 ohm and an empty tank to some higher ohm number that the gas tank float measures some volume of liquid.
The back window and trim are the same. The front windshield appears to be the same for the brougham, sedan, 7 pass. sedan according to the 1933 PA parts book.
I have measured the width of the doors and windows on a club brougham and a sedan and the only window in common is the smaller rear window. The brougham’s single door on each side is wider than either of the sedan’s door.
The 17″ wheels are different for a 1933 with a very small metal bead and available in steel artillary, wood and wire wheels.
I did some homework from the factory information and for 1933 regardless of model (836, 1236, 1247) the exhaust system had a total of 73″ of muffler. The 1st in line from the exhaust manifold was ~14″ long with an OD just >6″, connected to a pipe that curved around the frame followed by a long single muffler. The connecting pipe, as Eddie indicated is all 2 1/4″. The former owner of my 836 Club Brougham used a 4′ long 6″ OD straight through muffler from an International. Since you are not planning to race your car at high RPM, its hard for me to believe that the current system would be that restrictive to influence the engine operating temperature. Thank for sharing your restoration with all of us.
This looks like Ted Fosgates convertible sedan after the car was restored. Owned by JS of Fort Wayne, IN and was at the Kalamazoo PAS meet. Mate to TZ convertible sedan 1601 without division glass.
Arrow 78 model 2 had a article about this car written by its then owner (the third from new). R. Berger bought the car @ Hershey in 1971 and did major mechanical repairs to the engine, differential and rear end gears. The aluminum body was OK but the sheetmetal required repair before a complete paint the vehicle. The original bill of sale ($13,000 price tag) and original tools came with the car which indicated the 1925 series 33 convertible coupe was made by Derham. The front bumper is unique and made by AIRFLEX, like inner tubes that were inflated.
