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That is one ugly cut down sedan. Interesting they post a correct photo in their as showing the correct body and door configuration of a real car. As most members know, there is only one real twelve Sport Pheaton of any year in exsistance, a 1932. I just happen to know where it is……… But I am not telling! Ed. 😁

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John Cislak has a bunch of complete distributors and should also have some that are for parts. Give him a call, he is in the roster. Ed

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Water jet a wrench to fit it, works great and is not too heavy, it will also fit under the seat. Ed

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Wish I were there, stuck working in the garage this week, such is life. My best to all friends I missed this week. I will see you at Hershey or PAS 2017. Ed

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Should not be a problem, are you sure you have a correct pan? There are two or three different V12 pans. We use a one piece gasket that we make ourselves.

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John Cislak should have the parts you need, he is currently at the PAS meet in Texas. Maybe you pump has been modified so it would be best to figure out what is going in inside. Ed

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Hi Bill, most people get tired of water pumps using packings and them leaking, either large or small leaks. Most of us end up replacing the shaft with a new stainless one and machining it to use a modern rubber seal and bearing. You can wait a fairly long time for a shop to do this in season, so it may be better to run the packing for the summer if you plan to drive the car now, and get it done over the winter. Ed

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Bill, sorry to hear of your troubles. I too will miss the meet for the first time in over 20 years. On the bright side, I am sure Wilma will have the valve issue repaired ASAP.

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Car looks great.

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A man who owens a Pierce Arrow is always smiling.

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Next time I visit Winchester, I hope to have a cold one from the Pierce ice box!

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Looks like it may be good, but the application is for a small six. It will cost another 1200 to get it right just in parts, , plus welding and machining as the upper section is not correct and it won’t bolt up to a Pierce. Just another example of buying the right part the first time is always your best value.

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I run Autolite plugs in my car, but it’s been jetted for modern fuel, so the heat range may be off for your application. I’ll check and post tomorrow. Ed.

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The 32 twelve uses a Delco 265B cut out, with a temperature shunt in the face plate that cuts the charging rate by 50% at operating temperature. Carge rate cold is 22 amps, shunted down to 12 at full temperature. If you dont have the shunt in the generator, as many go missing or are removed, you can then run a 33 to 38 cutout/regular combo. If you cant get the shunt to work correctly, set it up for a much lower charging rate otherwise the thing will melt the armature. Generator for 32 is a 927L. Looks like you have a correct cut out that is probable a replacment and will require adjustment for running open between zero and -2.5 volts discharge. Good luck! Ed

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Hi Dave, a Hershey lock is a lever found on the steering column that turns on the ignition and locks or unlocks the switch to turn on the voltage to the primary side of the ignition system. It can be found on 1929 to 1935 Pierce cars, among others. Ed.

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No, use water pump grease, I like to run cutting oil in the system if I am not running anti freeze, keeps everything lubricated well and stops rust and corrosion.

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V12 generators are often swapped out over the years, and there are several years where Delco or Owens were both fitted. Also, cut outs and cut out regulators are also installed as replacements, thus with no photos or tag numbers to refer to, and often many cars having the startix removed or disconnected from the car, its nice to know what one is actually talking about. So, my question stands, what is the generator and what is the cut out being run. About 20 percent of the cars I see today have modern electrical upgrades under the old equipment covers. If his 32 V-12 is all stock, then proper diagnostic procedures can proceeded. I don’t have a 32 wiring diagram here at the house, and I cant remember if the 32 eight and twelve run the same cut out. The 32 generator may also have the internal resistance winding that cuts down the charging rate with temperature. Can someone post the National Service info on the system, and the diagram? Ed

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It is not being disclosed. I suppose in time the info will come out. I have no first hand information but will let you know if I hear of anything.

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I would not run an 8 volt battery. There is no reason to run one. The car will start and run fine on six, that was fine in the era, and it’s still fine today with a properly sorted car.

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Is it a Delco three brush generator? What are you running for a cutout? There are several different styles, don’t assume the cutout is correct. Some photos would help. Be sure your battery is charged before you begin to test it. Ed

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