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Gee, I think that I sold that Vanity to someone in the past year or so!!!!

I think what is pictured is from either a much earlier P-A car than yours Rick or from a less sophisticated auto maker.

Rick, Pierce-Arrow had electric lighters front and back in their cars by your time, as they did in my 1925 Series 80 Sedan.

BTW, the holes are for ashes, not for storing fresh cigars! What a way to ruin a good cigar.

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Paul, I agree that there is a digit missing.

When you redirected me to the 51 models, I found hat my tables are not lacking; I just need to learn how to use them properly, HA!

It is not like the PAMCC had a logical way to identify models.

It can be quite a jumble, especially for this one Pierce-Arrow owner, Series 80 guy.

Peter

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I just went through my relatively complete serial numbers tables on KNOWN P-A cars and I can’t even get close to the number 51408.

The closest LISTED 48HP in my tables is 10127, a mere 41,281 numbers off.

Me thinks that there is a problem with the data plate stamping.

Did your friend send you a pic? If so, post it.

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Go to http://www.cubanlous.com.

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Just FYI, the Duplex oil can on eBay is not the large flat style intended to fit under the front seat.

Be patient and one will come along, if you must have one.

In the meantime, enjoy driving you wonderful new Pierce-Arrow.

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You should look on http://www.Coachbuilt.com for Cole & Woop.

Also, contact Brooks Brierley (PAS Roster) and ask him.

Brooks is a living and breathing encyclopedia of Coach Built Motorcars.

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Ed, you make me laugh!

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Thomas, I too offer you good luck on the eBay bidding and welcome you to the Pierce-Arrow Society.

We are a group of very friendly , if somewhat eccentric folks who cherish America’s Finest Made Motorcar.

Perhaps, we will see you in Buffalo at the Meet this Summer.

Best wishes on snagging the `31, 43.

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It is also funny how this started as a discussion of gas additives and went to starter motors and then to my paying Greg’s travel to fix Philomela’s car.

HA, HA, HA, HA!

You just have to love the P-A guys & gals.

I will refrain from commenting in the future, yeah, right!

Oh yes, I use Seafoam and have for years for Winter Storage of marine engines.

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Greg will be on his way as soon as the snow clears out of Michigan!

He is our resident mechanical brain surgeon.

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Hello Joseph,

The Duplex oil cans occasionally show up on eBay for about $500.00 + and there are reproduction floating around, but those that have them will not part with either the originals or the re-pops, so post a standing search on eBay.

As for the tools, it will really be best if you enumerate the tools for which you search.

Some of us have a ton of spares, but we do not know what you want or need.

By the way, that is quite a slick ride, very Ritzy; but then again it is a Pierce-Arrow.

Good hunting,

Peter

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Hi Jim,

Please submit this to Arnold for the P-A-S Service Bulletin.

Thanks,

Peter

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Good Job!

The best thing to do for P-A posterity is to write this up with the pics and send it off to Arnold Romberg for the Pierce-Arrow Service Bulletin.

It is certainly worthy of publication and then it will always be available for review.

BTW, the Supervising Foreman of the rear-end assembly factory at the PAMCC was a guy named Joseph Waldorf, my Uncle’s Uncle, and the first family owner of my 1925 Series 80.

They did an outstanding job of creating Pierce-Arrow cars.

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I am quite sure that the folks down in OZ get the meaning eh Jak?

The term fits quite nicely considering Jak’s prior hilarious postings and antics.

Best regards,

Peter

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Jak,

You are a HOOT!

That is one heck of an Aussie contraption.

Peter

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You are talking about the +/- 3-inch disks with four holes in them, yes?

I think that John Cislak (PAS Member) has them for sale.

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Karl Crouch’s & Rick Horne’s

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Greg Long’s, formerly (two weeks ago) Rick Morrison’s Coach

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Where is the shop?

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The radiator may be correct for a Pierce-Arrow truck, but not for the Pierce-Arrow car to which it is attached!

It seems a tad tall, eh?

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