John Cislak has been collecting factory mufflers and pipes for more than twenty years. Several years ago he manufactured exact reproduction systems, and he has since sold out of them except for the 36 to 38 V-12’s. The factory mufflers were double wrapped and had a series of baffles, but the system was not restricted. The system was 2 1/4 the entire length. It had mandrel bends, and the fit was very tight to the frame and chassis components when new. The systems were very quiet, and almost sound like a jet engine in the distance. I would describe it as a gentile fan or whir that spools up. Almost a gentle whine. All mufflers today are single wrapped, and thus cause a tin ringing sound. Most mufflers available that we purchased from modern suppliers were more restricted, and only available in two inch. I can state that most cars I have seen or driven with the modern mufflers are too restricted, and under sized as far as the pipes go. The latest car we restored got one of the factory duplicate systems, and the car performs better than any other Pierce I have driven. John is not going to do the project again, as it was just too expensive for most people. It was fun to listen to the car, and explain to people the system is a factory duplicate and thus th car sounds like it did when new. As a general rule of thumb, run the largest and least restrictive system you can, the car will perform better. Ed
Weather was great, and it was nice to see everyone. Thanks to Dave and all the volunteers at the tent.
Cislak has them for sale on his table at Hershey yesterday. I do not know how much. Ed
It doesn’t use a switch per say, as a Startix is a switch. There are two different systems used in 1936 on the cars, one uses a back fire switch as well as all the other normal components, the other system doesn’t have the back fire switch. Anyway, the Startix is just wired into the system, the key position on the dash either activates it to start the car automatically, or the key can be put in the left or run position to prevent automatic starting. I recommend using a modern switch machined to look correct and having the spring starting position like most cars from the forties to the current day, it’s much safer to operate that way. Ed
Truth be told……around the shop(Classic Auto-Cislak garage) when ever we speak of Jak of “down under”” we use the term Jumpen Jack Flash……… Seems to fit his personality from the phone calls and letters. It fun to finally get to see what he and his car look like. I think we shipped him 3 percent of that cars total weight by mail! Bet the post man has a hernia now…..Ed
Photo is of two Pierce guys sitting on another make of car…….maybe a Ford?”
Here is a better photo of me. I’m on the right side, sorry about the Packard!
Do not weld the block, stitch it.
Photo above the tree line.
We were looking forward to meeting up with the tour Greg was on, but for some reason it didn’t work out. I drove my V-12 up the mountain on Saturday, 79 degrees at the bottom, 42 at the top. It was clear as a bell. Biggest problem was LOTS of traffic on the hill. Photo enclosed at 5200 feet up, just where the tree line starts to drop off.
I’m good with that week. Looking forward to attending, if I am going to haul one cross country, I may as well bring two! And with the 48 foot trailer, I will. Ed
I believe the 31 and 32 eight air filters are the same, the pans are not. You need to be sure you have a correct carb and air horn, or it will not match up. Ed
Not the car I looked at. Ed
Greg is correct. Also timing could be off on a set of points causing it to be slightly restarted. I vote for plugged head passages or even ten Guage irregularities.
Ed Minnie
434 Center St
Ludlow Ma 01056
I looked at this car when Dave had it for sale. Nice car!
I run Perrier……..NOTHING BUT THE BEST FOR A Pierce!
If it’s the car in Texas, I probably have photos taken two months ago. I’m overseas now, but will try and post them when I get back.
It’s a great car. “The man who owns a Pierce Arrow envies no one.”” Taken from a letter sent to the factory. I agree.”
Pot metal vs. bronze & brass. That carb is indistructible. The pot metal fails just by looking at it. Such is the fate of 99 percent of the UU series carbs.
For the current price it’s a great shelf item for the garage. ($66.00)