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Ed, your Model 36 should have the first version Helmeted Archer if you decide it needs one. This should be with NO grass at the base, and nickel (early) or chrome. 1929 and 1930 should have grass and be chrome. The helmeted archers also have a foot angle that changes from one to another but I have never seen anywhere that it plays into a year of production. The one pictured above has the grass and the 1931 bow, the original bow is pulled more and thus the ends located tighter to the helmet and knee. Karl

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Bill, Series 81 is the last use for these boots. Karl

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shock boot leather lace side, Karl

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Tom, I sell the 8 shock boots and the 2 front drum brake rod boots for $250 a set plus shipping. The are in stock. Photos of them are in the printed emporium from time to time. Karl

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John, The 1930 leatherback coupe that member Ed Leichliter now owns has a stone guard that may be an original. It mounts on pins that require drilling the radiator shell dead center in the front top, and two holes on the side of the shell that hold two brackets. Once installed you can not remove without filling 5 holes and re-chroming the shell. I am sure he would send you photos. Most aftermarket shells have clamps that catch the side rear lip of the shell. They cause paint loss at the hood. Go to any of the A ford parts dealers web sites and you will get a good idea of this type of mounts. Karl

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The food in this place is 5 star! Mary and I have never been disappointed! This is an easy off and on from I-83.Watch for entrance just past overhead bridge on Paxton Street, across from closed Ford Dealer. If you get to the next light at Cameron St. you missed it. Free Parking. FULL BAR! Karl

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Paul, If John can not help you I was able to purchase all the parts for the 1930 thermostat at this site. the total is not cheap but it all fit as original. I purchased the cover plate, all rods, and bellows. He also sold me a used water cup that surrounds the bellows.I also purchased his Stutz bellows and made it work for 1929, but I had to make the rods and links as he did not have them for the “air”” bellows used for 1929. Karl http://www.classicandexotic.com/store/c-99-shutterstat-thermostat.aspx”

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Please note, posts have been deleted from this thread. As a moderator of the AACA forum for eleven years, this thread would have been deleted back to the single post by Roger Stahl long before this post. Copies of the Forum rules would have been e-mailed to all parties involved in the now deleted posts. If they can re-word the comments or questions the thread could continue. Moderators also have the power to pin the thread so the original post can be viewed and no one can comment below that post. This is not done often. When they signed up to use the AACA forum they clicked yes to follow the rules before they could post on that forum. If the poster wanted to start a new thread asking about colors for pierce arrows in the twenties they can do so. Fattie Arbuckles purple car can move to my house today and I would be verrrry happy! Karl

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As far as I know we do not have a set of rules on this Forum. This is copied and pasted from the AACA rules: “It is NOT okay for forum users to make negative comments on a seller’s listing, nor is it okay to question its asking price.” If this doesn’t apply here I guess I always go back to rule number one for ANY club: Is what I am doing or saying for the good of the National club or will it have a negative impact on how the club is viewed by others? I’m done. Karl

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With no Moderator, Posters can use the delete key if the now regret the original post and use better judgment in the future. I have seen cars bring twice the price I am willing to pay, and the new owner could not be happier with the purchase. New high prices for sales make us glad when we try to justify restoration costs and when we walk in our garages and rethink the values of our own cars based on these sales. Karl

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What a better way to alienate a fellow Pierce Member and a known poster to this forum than to condemn his cars colors and asking price on E-bay. As a moderator on the AACA forum we don’t allow this type of thread to continue as it causes the loss of good members. Rodgers first post is just information we can all use, however if this car sells there may be a few members who will probably not get a call from this seller to buy anything they are selling in the future. Just my 2 cents worth. Karl

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Richard, Greg Long had a pile of them for sale at the Pierce Meet. Give him a call he may have the one you need. Karl

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Pierce arrows in the newspaper: both Friday’s Forest Lawn tour and Saturday’s Show were covered, with a photo of “Miss Helen”” in Sundays paper. This should be the link to Fridays tour for on line reading. http://www.buffalonews.com/city-region/buffalo/pierce-arrow-society-brings-cars-to-presidents-back-to-the-city-of-their-origin-2015072 Karl”

http://www.buffalonews.com/city-region/buffalo/pierce-arrow-society-brings-cars-to-presidents-back-to-the-city-of-their-origin-2015072

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David, the brass ones were being made by a guy in the Studebaker Club. I bought a few sets that I needed and they fit well. About a year ago the casting pattern to make them was on E-bay, I was the back bidder… So I don’t know who has it now. I hope we will see someone using this pattern again to keep the Hobby supplied with locks in the future. I don’t know any other supplier at this time. Karl

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ED, Running production changes of many parts for 1929 and 1930 Pierces make the judging at Meets a little difficult, however the 1929 late production cars no longer used the flat McKeelite lens and went to part number 733247, the flat twolite lens,(page 30 of parts book). The 1930 parts book clearly shows on page 55 that the same part number is shown for 1930. My green 5 passenger sedan is the lowest vin. numbered car in the roster for 1930 and has the flat twolite lens. Research has never come up with a date for the running change in 1930 to convex twolite lens part number 736988 however all later cars from 1930 have the convex lens. So… I guess you would have to say everyone is correct, and because we don’t judge 1930 by months of manufacture like they do Model A Fords the lower the vin. number, the earlier the date of manufacture, the more likely it left with flat lens. The lens interchange in the bezels without any problem. The 1930 parts book shows the lens for A,B,and C without any additional breakdown. I hope this helps answer the question. Karl

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We know of 104 trucks, but my rosters skip a few years of late teens trucks. Is the complete list somewhere to see if they continue into the 51k’s? Most years show less than 40 dues paying truck owners. Karl

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John, your 1931 is the same as my 1929 coupe, and 1930 model C’s front and rear lighters. I have seen later rear lighters that use cat eye on sedans. I think only one color is correct for Pierce. They were made in amber, red and green. I am not sure what year they start, but by 1934 I think they all had them. Karl

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Richard, most of us are more than happy to help, the wiring diagrams, and parts books will show the locations of this lighter and wiring to the dash hot. As Rick Horne mentioned above, good photo copies are available of both from the PAS. they will make life easier and your restorers will thank you many times for them.

I sold the lamp at Hershey, Karl

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Richard, Arnold’s lighter is correct for 29 and 30. You make it work by pushing in on the small nickel plated button on the side of the lighter. All the aftermarket lighters seem to use a 1/2 inch base, the Pierce base is over 600 thousands. They will not fit. I have seen the northeast logo on the back side of the removable head. Karl

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David, if this is the one from e-bay a few weeks ago, I checked it then and it did fit 31-33 Pierce, but… truck only. I think Ernie Follis is the only owner of this type truck? I will recheck my delco books and get back to you. Karl

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